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Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

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it confuses the gently caress out of me when a character says "gel". "when I was a gel".

I ask british goons what the gently caress a gel is and they have no idea. It came to me recently when I imagined a certain type of british accent pronouncing "girl". Actually, I think I was watching some old movie and someone said it and I was just

Just reading it, it made no sense ever. There are a lot of endearing british accents. I like the one that the elevator robot in that douglas adams video game about spaceship titanic. The one where it's not exactly cockney and he adds H's to the front of words that don't need them. I've seen the witches do that once or twice when they get self conscious about "dropping aitches"

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Making Money just came in the post and I'll probably drop all other books to read it, but this topic makes me really want to go back and read others and buy any I've missed, which woudld take a while and cant be good financially.

I also have Small Gods but could never get past the first 30 pages or so years ago, I'll have to see if I can read it now
nevermind that bollocks i was thinking of Eric, don't know how I made that mistake

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Nomenklatura
Dec 4, 2002

If Canada is to survive, it can only survive in mutual respect and in love for one another.


Sylphosaurus posted:

More Lovecraft references: The Patrician also refers to an "incident" that involved Dagon street and a sushi eatery during a full moon.
The Three Jolly Luck takeaway fish bar!

(Damned shame about what happened to Mr. Hong. "Crack-crack-gristle-ARRRRGH!" is no way for a man to go.)

I'm wondering if he's setting up for an upcoming book with that, or whether it's just a running joke. Oddly enough, it'd be a parfect venue for a Wizards/Rincewind book if he's ever planning another one, as the Dungeon Dimensions type of story tended to feature them a lot.

And I'm surprised by all the hate for the Fourecks book; it had one of the highest WPP* ratios in all of the Discworld, thus making it objectively good. I liked Moving Pictures a lot too, mostly because it had CMOT doing his thing, and the protagonist was likeable enough.

Certainly better than Monstrous Regiment or the weaker Witch books, at any rate.

And yes, I'm eagerly awaiting the new Lipvig book.

free nifty sex stories *Wizards Per Page, which is the closest one can come to a standardized measurement of non-Vimesian Discworld book quality. Though a rough measurement at best, it son rapes mother porn does involve numbers, and thus is lent verifiable objective validity. This follows from the finest traditions of econometricians, who have never let sheer ludicrousness get in the way of a good bit of algebra.

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Okay, what's "Shaken players shift the load (9 letters)" at the start of Chapter 12?

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Nomenklatura
Dec 4, 2002

If Canada is to survive, it can only survive in mutual respect and in love for one another.


Ok, reading Making Money right now... is it just me, or is Pratchett introducing Keynes to the masses?

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Sep 1, 2007



I purchased 'Hogfather' with the adult covers so I could read it twice by Christmas. And wow, the adult covers are NICE. They make me feel grown-up.

Will look for Making Money if Chapters has it. Thud! was excellent, although Night Watch was better. But I'm biased because I love time travelling mind foolery.

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Feb 9, 2003

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Fourecks posted:

I purchased 'Hogfather' with the adult covers so I could read it twice by Christmas. And wow, the adult covers are NICE. They make me feel grown-up.

Will look for Making Money if Chapters has it. Thud! was excellent, although Night Watch was better. But I'm biased because I love time travelling mind foolery.

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Feb 9, 2003

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is this a kirby cover?
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because my hogfather isn't the adult one, and it isn't the other one amazon has with the peppermint swirl and a sleigh. It's just some santa looking head with tusks. I can't find it

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Krinkle posted:

is this a kirby cover?
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because my hogfather isn't the adult one, and it isn't the other one amazon has with the peppermint swirl and a sleigh. It's just some santa looking head with tusks. I can't find it

Naw those are the crappy American mass trade paperback covers. This would be the particular Hogfather Kirby cover:



I ended up with a nice adult cover of Jingo as a Christmas gift. It is black and has a picture of a sword handles on it. Very snazzy.

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Feb 9, 2003

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Archetype posted:

Naw those are the crappy American mass trade paperback covers. This would be the particular Hogfather Kirby cover:



I ended up with a nice adult cover of Jingo as a Christmas gift. It is black and has a picture of a sword handles on it. Very snazzy.

Yeah I thought so. I also thought that guy died a long time ago and only drew the cover to like the first ten or so.

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Dec 30, 2002




Well, I'm standing in line now to have my book signed by pterry. In the q&a he revealed that the crossword puzzle answer is "carthorse"(which is an anagram of orchestra, ie "shaken players")

Other news, the movie adaptation of CoM & LF(being filmed together) Vetinari has been cast and is supposedly "perfect".
Curse these other fans in line. also curse the improbably British family behind me. what are you people doing in torrance!

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ONE YEAR LATER posted:

Vetinari wasn't the Patrician in the first two books

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ONE YEAR LATER posted:

Vetinari wasn't the Patrician in the first two books

Pratchett claims he was.

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Eunabomber posted:

Other news, the movie adaptation of CoM & LF(being filmed together) Vetinari has been cast and is supposedly "perfect".

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LooseChanj posted:

Is that interracial sex video galleries? Says it's for tv, but I suppose you could still call it a movie.

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Eunabomber posted:

Yeah, made for TV movie like Hogfather.

I wasn't aware of *any* movies. Is this a british thing?

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Yes.

I went to the Torrance signing earlier; got there late because I became ensnared in the trap that is IKEA and arrived just in time to hear his last line of the talk and then people lined up for the signing. The line took about two hours to go through; I was one of the last ten or so. There was a surprising amount of people (to me at least) there. I didn't know he was so popular around here; very nice showing. The man himself is much smaller and elderly looking than I realized. I'd like to hear more of what he had to say during his talk, so I'd appreciate any more details.

I've now put my copy away and started looking for an ebook version.

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bobula posted:

Yes.

I went to the Torrance signing earlier; got there late because I became ensnared in the trap that is IKEA and arrived just in time to hear his last line of the talk and then people lined up for the signing. The line took about two hours to go through; I was one of the last ten or so. There was a surprising amount of people (to me at least) there. I didn't know he was so popular around here; very nice showing. The man himself is much smaller and elderly looking than I realized. I'd like to hear more of what he had to say during his talk, so I'd appreciate any more details.

I've now put my copy away and started looking for an ebook version.

I too was in the very back for the talk as I arrived mere minutes before he began. By pure dumb luck I got into the back of the white ticket line instead of the red ticket line, so it only took me 45 minutes or so. Do you recall the weird people with a vaguely British accent in th back of a line? I was right in front of them.

He talked a little about how traveling is very hard on him, various health issues(I think his parents died or were hospitalized recently) and his bad reaction to CA sushi. Not much about a new Discworld book, he did say something about a non-discworld adventure book, something about how he hates weak woman characters, and how his protagonist-a timid mid Victorian era "gel"-became a badass in two chapters of being shipwrecked. His caveat to this was that his mind is incredibly non-linear, and nothing has been finished yet. I do not recall any questions being asked about the new Tiffany Aching book.
The first thing he did was ask everyone if they liked Mr. Fusspots new toy.

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May 28, 2001

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Bah, sucks living in a non-english speaking country. I preordered Making Money from amazon.de, the shipping date was the 24th. But now it has been pushed back to the first week of october

Well, on the good side this gives me more time to finish Going Postal for the second time.

I like the "modern" Ankh-Morpork centric books a lot, The Truth and Going Postal are among my favorite Pratchett books. The Tiffany Aching series is brilliant as well.

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Nomenklatura
Dec 4, 2002

If Canada is to survive, it can only survive in mutual respect and in love for one another.


Doh-Doh posted:

Bah, sucks living in a non-english speaking country. I preordered Making Money from amazon.de, the shipping date was the 24th. But now it has been pushed back to the first week of october

Well, on the good side this gives me more time to finish Going Postal for the second time.

I like the "modern" Ankh-Morpork centric books a lot, The Truth and Going Postal are among my favorite Pratchett books.
Making money is definitely in that vein, though it also manages to do a surprisingly good job (at least up to the point I've read) of explaining the importance of banking and paper currency... in light comedy, no less.

Unfortunately, I haven't seen anything as unquestionably awesome as free lexi belle porn the pleas of the unwritten letters from Going Postal, but it's DEFINITELY a nice switch from how dark Thud! was, and Moist has turned into one of the best of the running Discworld protagonists.

(If only for his interactions with Vetinari, which are arguably even better than the Vimes/Vetinari relationship. Only Moist could actually snow Vetinari, and only ol' Havelock could discern when Moist is snowing him. Reading them both do it is one of the highlights of the entire series for me.)

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Unfortunately, I haven't seen anything as unquestionably awesome as sexy japanese women nude the pleas of the unwritten letters from Going Postal, but it's DEFINITELY a nice switch from how dark Thud! was, and Moist has turned into one of the best of the running Discworld protagonists.

The darkness of Thud! made it amazing when Vimes started shouting red hair on pussy WHERES MY COW?

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May 23, 2003

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I'd say The Truth and Thud were possibly among my favourites, though "improving" is a fairly simple way of looking at it. I'd say his earlier books were funnier (Mort, Witches Abroad, Small Gods), though his latest are arguably slightly... cleverer (oh god, I really did just type that). Does that make sense? Books like Masquerade, Jingo and Hogfather were real duds though - I guess after so many books they can't all be great. He's certainly still on form, I think that's easy to agree with.

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I liked Making Money a lot, Mr Bent's origin is cool and the sex tricks for her Golem standard (I take it this was a reference to marxism and the value of labour?) is awesome. The highlight of the book had to be the blind letter office, the twisted logic of it all and the reminder of just how clever the Patrician is was great. I know it was just setup for the Patrician adopting oral sex on stage Mr Fusspot but I was sad to read that carina lau nude pictures Wuffles had died. Moist is a wonderful tool to show how various large institutions works in a humourous manner and always making you wonder about why a con artist is so hard core ebony porn very suited to running said institutions. I hope we get to see his next hinted at adventure.

I do have one plot question though, same sex health benefits When the gold starts raining into the vault Moist laments that things had "been going so well..." surely extra gold is a good thing now the currency is based on Golems, its just a large amount of a valueable tradeable commodity? Or is he just upset the moment with Adora has been ruined?


icenode posted:

Books like Masquerade, Jingo and Hogfather were real duds though
I really like Jingo and Hogfather, and Masquerade isn't bad, what did you find so unappealing about them?

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icenode posted:

I'd say The Truth and Thud were possibly among my favourites, though "improving" is a fairly simple way of looking at it. I'd say his earlier books were funnier (Mort, Witches Abroad, Small Gods), though his latest are arguably slightly... cleverer (oh god, I really did just type that).

I would mostly agree with that, except the Girls-Night-Out scene in Thud is probably the funniest thing he's ever written.

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Jingo and Hogfather are two of my favorites, and I really like Maskerade too. :O Really, I'd switch the ones you listed as liking for these. Except Small Gods. Small Gods can stay.

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I think Sorcery and Equal Rites are the only two books I'm not a giant fan of, simply because it's pretty obvious that Pratchett wasn't planning on having the series go on as long as it did and the stuff that happens feels out of place compared to the rest of them. Although I did like the call back to Sorcery in one of the later Wizard books, I think the Patrician asks the facility about when the Wizards tried to take over the world.

One of my favorite parts of Making Money was free download porno videos when the Patrician was discussing the latest crossword with Drumknot and mentioned that only 5 or 6 other people knew the answer to a question, one of them being a pet store owner and Vetinari tells him to keep an eye on it since no one who could get that answer could be satisfied with just a pet shop for too long.

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Dec 4, 2002

If Canada is to survive, it can only survive in mutual respect and in love for one another.


Grum posted:

The darkness of Thud! made it amazing when Vimes started shouting lesbian ebony porn pics WHERES MY COW?

which I loved, so, so much
Chill down my goddamned spine. I agree with some of those who say that Vimes is written a bit inconsistently; while there's supposed to be this barely uncaged beast within him, it often doesn't come out due to the very nature of the discworld setting. That scene, though... THAT brought it out properly.

It's a pity that we haven't seen Moist "from the outside" from the perspective of someone like Vimes, by the way. That's one of my favorite parts of Discworld, and after Making Money, I'm anxious to see what others actually think of the man.

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Nomenklatura posted:

It's a pity that we haven't seen Moist "from the outside" from the perspective of someone like Vimes, by the way. That's one of my favorite parts of Discworld, and after Making Money, I'm anxious to see what others actually think of the man.

I think it's pretty clear at least from emilie de ravin sex Going Postal (I haven't read Making Money yet, motherfucking Amazon.com gently caress) that Vimes hates everything Moist stands for and would love nothing more than to drag him back in front of the Patrician for something, going "HA! You can't change a con-man's spots!"

Angua seems to like Moist, which makes sense, because Moist is good with the ladies and is good with canines.

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Keshik posted:

I think it's pretty clear at least from australian gold sex magnet Going Postal (I haven't read Making Money yet, motherfucking Amazon.com gently caress) that Vimes hates everything Moist stands for and would love nothing more than to drag him back in front of the Patrician for something, going "HA! You can't change a con-man's spots!"

Angua seems to like Moist, which makes sense, because Moist is good with the ladies and is good with canines.

Carrot is, of course, Carrot.

Shorts, you can't change a conmans shorts


I don't know, I just recall Vetinari saying 'cant change a leopards shorts' and going but no one noticed in the book



also I'm hoping that Moist will actually growl under his breath infront of Angua sometime

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I thought it was Nanny Ogg that said the bit about the leopard's shorts? Or did Vetinari say it too.

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bobula posted:

I thought it was Nanny Ogg that said the bit about the leopard's shorts? Or did Vetinari say it too.

edit: dur you must be talking about Making Money which I haven't read yet

It is a phrase used constantly in Making Money.

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Nomenklatura
Dec 4, 2002

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I think it's pretty clear at least from free celebrity porno clips Going Postal (I haven't read Making Money yet, motherfucking Amazon.com gently caress) that Vimes hates everything Moist stands for and would love nothing more than to drag him back in front of the Patrician for something, going "HA! You can't change a con-man's spots!"

Angua seems to like Moist, which makes sense, because Moist is good with the ladies and is good with canines.

Carrot is, of course, Carrot.
Hmm. I don't know if I'd agree. Yes, Vimes has almost certainly figured out that Vimes is a low trickster of a man, but he ALSO managed to piss off (if not ruin) the vast majority of the Trust, and bringing great and powerful men low is something that makes Vimes very, very happy indeed. Certainly when forced to choose between Reacher Gilt and Lipwig he'd choose the latter in a nanosecond.

I think the thing that might annoy Vimes the most about Lipwig is that (at least in Going Postal) Lipwig is about the only person on the Disc would can keep up with Vetinari, which is why (speculation based on Making Money here) black lesbian tribadism videos The Lipwig series is really about Vetinari grooming his replacement: not another tyrant, but a popular politician with a gift for bullshit that knows how to take people's money and make them happy he did it. Which may just make Lipwig himself the most important person on the Disc, and considering how much I pictures of sex act LIKE the character, that makes me a happy reader indeed.

And yes, Carrot is Carrot. Who knows what he's really thinking? Lipwig can read Vetinari, and yet still can't read Carrot. I'd LOVE to see more Lipwig/Carrot scenes, though, based on that speculation above. naked gun shower scene Their abilities with people compliment each other amazingly; were Carrot ever to become King, he'd need the fully-trained-up Lipwig desperately to add flare and humanity to his somewhat overwhelming ability to dominate and command. Carrot would make a TERRIBLE politician, but he'd need them regardless, and I can't think of a more natural politician than Moist von Lipwig.

In any case, now that I've finished it, I can say that Making Money isn't as good as Going Postal, but it is exactly what the series needed after Thud! and I'm really glad that the "industrial revolution" books have a consistent protagonist. Funny how the once heavily anti-establishment Discworld books have been doing so much institution-building, though. He's fixing all his old jokes.

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bobula posted:

Jingo and Hogfather are two of my favorites, and I really like Maskerade too. :O Really, I'd switch the ones you listed as liking for these. Except Small Gods. Small Gods can stay.

I don't think anyone in their right minds can diss Small Gods, it's stand alone excellence. I don't know, the ones I/you mentioned just didn't amuse or interest me, hard to put a finger on why I was so unimpressed.

Actually, another odd one out is probably The Last Continent. A decent Rincewind story, but about twice as funny if you actually lived in Australia due to all the clever references.

Pyramids was a mess incidentally, however it also had the finest intro to a Pratchett book where hairy pussy and tits he spends girls home alone naked pages describing how the main character's getting garbed in assassin gear, blades blackened with lamp soot, caltrops and so on, only for him to promptly fall over. Masterful.

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I don't know. I didn't feel that Making Money matched up with Going Postal. It was good, but the plot just wasn't compelling in the way that Postal's was -- it lacked tension, on a lot of levels. I felt like it had been written more to be another Moist book than because he had another compelling Moist story to tell.

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