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SeanBeansShako
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If Republic Commando 2 comes out followed by Imperial Commando I will quit bitching about the insanity of Starkiller and Force Unleashed.

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Imperial Commando

I would play the gently caress out of this game. Seriously.

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That was pretty much the DLC from TFU

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Exactly that is the whole point. By "True-sith" they mean the original Sith species and dark jedi who fought with Naga Sadow in the Great Hyperspace War. When they lost the remnants fled into the unknown regions to rebuild. Between then and now all the "Sith" that came up like Exar Kun and Revan were just basing their teachings on the Sith way and were not actually bred Sith. These guys are.

That seems kind of...underwhelming. Especially considering the build-up Kreia gave them I was expecting something a little more unorthodox. But that's probably my fault for hyping it up in my own head.

I mean, why would Revan have to go off and face them on his own if they were nothing but another conventional Sith threat. You'd think he could just tell the Jedi there was some wicked poo poo going on over in some unexplored region of space and to prepare instead of going off on his own, cutting ties with everything, and telling no one but a crazy old lady, who may or may not betray him.

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Aug 1, 2008



wacky posted:

Also, if I'm not mistaken, X-Wing and Tie Fighter had live action scenes in them randomly as well. Holy crap there needs to be more of that and I need to dig up those games. I remember a few years ago I went through and beat Jedi Knight twice.. once as a good guy and once as a bad guy. That was so awesome, although the good guy path is the only canon one I assume.
The X-wing and Tie-Fighter cut scenes were cartoons, they were good cartoons though.

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Traxus IV
Sep 11, 2001



Hell yeah new thread. What an appropriate title.

I recently found out that an acquaintance of mine was an honest-to-god "fandalorian" type. He referred to Traviss as hi res porn free Karen and everything. It was so sad. I honestly feel bad for him, he's a nice enough person but christ. After gushing about her books and how the Jedi get away with so much terrible poo poo he went on a rant about the New Mandalorians in the CG Clone Wars cartoon. I regret mentioning Star Wars in his presence (Celebration is in town and on people's minds here, sooo).

I forget who said it in the last thread but I hate Star Wars almost as much as I love Star Wars.

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Traxus IV posted:

I recently found out that an acquaintance of mine was an honest-to-god "fandalorian" type. He referred to Traviss as bunny ranch girls naked Karen and everything. It was so sad. I honestly feel bad for him, he's a nice enough person but christ. After gushing about her books and how the Jedi get away with so much terrible poo poo he went on a rant about the New Mandalorians in the CG Clone Wars cartoon. I regret mentioning Star Wars in his presence (Celebration is in town and on people's minds here, sooo).

I absolutely love the changes new clone wars cartoon has made to them, if only because of reactions like that.

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sickinwyoming posted:

It wasn't until the last thread that I realized the guy in the Jedi Knight games was supposed to be the guy from Dark Forces (I only played the first game, obviously)
The main reason I liked it was because you played as just a badass mercenary, not some lost secret Jedi, or whatever.

It's like Han Solo becoming a Jedi...
Please tell me this hasn't happened
Before the prequels came out and games with a Jedi main character were a dime a dozen, Dark Forces II was the first FPS game where you actually got to wield a lightsaber and use the Force. Anyone who says "it was better when Kyle was just a mercenary" is either lying or they don't remember how awesome it was when the game first came out and you could finally go around lightsabering the poo poo out of random dudes.

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Casimir Radon
Aug 1, 2008



Jedi Knight was awesome because of the huge sprawling levels and puzzles that made sense. Sure the cutscenes don't look good now, but I thought they were awesome when I was 8.

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Poorly acted and overwrought cutscenes are like, the best part about beating those games. They were proper rewards, much like Blizzard's cinematics, and CnC (where the gameplay was poo poo but the cinematics were always the best).

KOTOR and 2 are also piles of crap.

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Jan 14, 2010



arioch posted:

KOTOR and 2 are also piles of crap.

Okay, you may have not liked them, but that's a harsh accusation to throw at two of the better Star Wars games out there.

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Feb 8, 2010

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I dig the poo poo out of Jedi knight games mostly cause they look like they belong in OT Star Wars. From Kyle's clothes to the ships, ect ect. Now Star Wars games and such look like they pinch too much from whatever is popular ATM. BSG, Mass Effect ect ect.

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WampaLord posted:

Okay, you may have not liked them, but that's a harsh accusation to throw at two of the better Star Wars games out there.

This mans avatar, surely you at least like HK-47 at least arioch.

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Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008



I have to say that as below the rest of the Jedi Knight games as it was and as much as the plot made absolutely no sense, I really enjoyed Jedi Academy. Not in the same way as TIE Fighter or KOTOR, but it was just a fun, mindless "run around and use Force powers" game.

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KOTOR 2 wasn't as liked as the first because it didn't have a Son Goku character like Revan to play as, and it had a darker story written by Chris Avelone, as opposed to the first game which had Son Goku Revan and a story by Not Chris Avelone. The sassing you get at the very end was priceless.

"What do you mean why is that old lady mocking me I am a Jedi you can't talk to me like that what does she mean about that what did the ending mean one old lady with lightsabers isn't a boss!"

Or something to that effect. It's too bad that Obsidian was rushed, like always, into releasing a beta of what should have been a killer game. More than it was, anyway.

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SeanBeansShako posted:

This mans avatar, surely you at least like HK-47 at least arioch.

In that he was the only character that wasn't straight up copied out of the generic Bioware RPG game, yes.

Apart from that, the aesthetic of the game and the setting in general they mashed together severely grates and the Dark Side was basically a travesty.

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Oct 9, 2007


I finished the Thrawn trilogy today. It was alternatingly slow (usually when the story focused on Leia) and incredibly tense and awesome (Thrawn). C'Baoth annoyed the hell out of me, except for the final showdown, and I really hope he stays dead.

Quick complaint: I'm expected to believe that some Imperial scientist actually obtained Luke's hand and lightsaber from Cloud City, and kept it for... what, eight, nine years, until C'Baoth wanted to clone it? That's entering courtney kardashian nude photos Glove of Darth Vader territory right there. I mean, I realize these are a bunch of books about space-wizards in the past-future, but come on.

That being said, yesterday I received a package in the mail containing this:


I can't wait to start reading. Zahn's bad habits as a writer bugged me less and less as I got into the books, and I hope I can gloss over Stackpole's flaws just as easily.

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Nov 20, 2009


Chairman Capone posted:

I have to say that as below the rest of the Jedi Knight games as it was and as much as the plot made absolutely no sense, I really enjoyed Jedi Academy. Not in the same way as TIE Fighter or KOTOR, but it was just a fun, mindless "run around and use Force powers" game.

Jedi Academy is pretty kick rear end, you want Dark Side powers with your weirdo Rodian Jedi? you got it buddy!

Plus, The Movie Battles Mod is pretty kicking to mess around with .

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Throb Robinson
Feb 8, 2010

He would enjoy administering the single antidote to Leia. He would enjoy it very much indeed..


hunkofsoup posted:

That being said, yesterday I received a package in the mail containing this:


I can't wait to start reading. Zahn's bad habits as a writer bugged me less and less as I got into the books, and I hope I can gloss over Stackpole's flaws just as easily.

Lucky guy. A first read of X-wing is a magical thing/

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Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 9, 2007



arioch posted:

Poorly acted and overwrought cutscenes are like, the best part about beating those games. They were proper rewards, much like Blizzard's cinematics, and CnC (where the gameplay was poo poo but the cinematics were always the best).

KOTOR and 2 are also piles of crap.

I too hate critically acclaimed popular games. What is your opinion on Bioshock and the Legend of Zelda series?

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SeanBeansShako posted:

Jedi Academy is pretty kick rear end, you want Dark Side powers with your weirdo Rodian Jedi? you got it buddy!

Plus, The Movie Battles Mod is pretty kicking to mess around with .

Hmm, this brings to mind a question, have there ever been any Wookiee Jedi?

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Aug 9, 2007



sickinwyoming posted:

Hmm, this brings to mind a question, have there ever been any Wookiee Jedi?

Jawa?

Yes and Yes

Though I'm pretty sure the Jedi Jawa isn't canon.

Also, news from Theforce.net

quote:

- Say goodbye to the multi-author extended series of books (NJO, Legacy of the Force, Fate of the Jedi) and expect trilogies at most...at least for a while

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Sep 29, 2005
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I'm sorry if this has been brought up in previous threads, but they are always a million pages long by the time I get to them - so I'm coming in at page 5 (Forgive me, I'm a very casual Star Wars Fan):

In the original trilogy, I recall a rebel general (kind of looked like a squid) saying "may the force be with you" to the pilots before a Death Star assault. Isn't the force a Jedi thing? Surely, not all the pilots are Jedis. Is it just a little motto they use?

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RADIOHEADISGOD posted:

I'm sorry if this has been brought up in previous threads, but they are always a million pages long by the time I get to them - so I'm coming in at page 5 (Forgive me, I'm a very casual Star Wars Fan):

In the original trilogy, I recall a rebel general (kind of looked like a squid) saying "may the force be with you" to the pilots before a Death Star assault. Isn't the force a Jedi thing? Surely, not all the pilots are Jedis. Is it just a little motto they use?

Anyone have any theories on this? Thanks.

It's like saying "God save us" or "God help us all," except I think everyone knows the Force exists.

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Loopyface posted:

It's like saying "God save us" or "God help us all," except I think everyone knows the Force exists.

That's what I thought, but then Han mocks both Obi-Wan and Luke for believing in it.

Then again, I guess he does come to "believe," so to say, based on the fact his entire family becomes Jedis.

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Shimrra Jamaane posted:

I too hate critically acclaimed popular games. What is your opinion on Bioshock and the Legend of Zelda series?

Legend of Zelda has been awful lately in case you haven't noticed, and while Bioshock 1 was insightful AND fun Bioshock 2 was a terrible cash-in effort.

Is this supposed to be an appeal to popularity thing? Because I'm pretty sure the prequel movies have made Lucas about 15 billion bucks so far.

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arioch posted:

Legend of Zelda has been pretty bad lately in case you haven't noticed

No, can't say I have. TP was great and WW is a constant fan favorite (except the triforce hunting). Just ask in the Zelda thread. But I guess we are the ones who are wrong and we should stop having fun. Anyway, I'm just saying that there are a lot of reasons to think that KoTOR is a fantastic game and few to think it is objectionably horrible like you do.

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RADIOHEADISGOD posted:

That's what I thought, but then Han mocks both Obi-Wan and Luke for believing in it.

Then again, I guess he does come to "believe," so to say, based on the fact his entire family becomes Jedis.

Han was basically being a "Heh, Deal With it " atheist at that point.

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I have no real hate for Kotor the game itself. I thought it was a rehash((In a good way)) of the elements and such of the OT.

My ire for Kotor comes from all my other nerdy friends who are like "This is the real Star Wars." Makes me never want to play TOR and such cause I have been told that the GCW and all that is the old boring poo poo.

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The Imperial Museum section in the second X-wing book is fantastic, it covers all this, including the Emperor's heroic sacrifice to destroy the weapon after the terrorists were unmoved by his pleas for reason.


Exactly. I remember watching that and going "oh, I get why pretty much every person ever isn't rising up against the Empire now." That and the Shadows of Mindor re-imagining of Luke Skywalker are the best.

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Shimrra Jamaane posted:

No, can't say I have. TP was great and WW is a constant fan favorite (except the triforce hunting). Just ask in the Zelda thread. But I guess we are the ones who are wrong and we should stop having fun. Anyway, I'm just saying that there are a lot of reasons to think that KoTOR is a fantastic game and few to think it is objectionably horrible like you do.

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arioch posted:

Spirit Tracks, Phantom Hourglass, etc. TP was pretty good to excellent, though, because it almost never lapsed into the raw retarded gimmickry of WW, PH, ST.

You have a point about the handheld games but I didn't really count them as they aren't really considered to be "full" Zelda games if you know what I mean.

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This feels like a Make Fun of TFN day. Let's see what those neckbeards are over during Celebration...

Robimus finds a way to be butthurt over the announcement of a new Wraith Squadron book.

Robimus posted:

I'm a little underwhelmed.

According to Sue part of the reason IC 2 wasn't viable was that it was too long between books. Apparently the same rules don't apply for X-Wing novels.

Even people who kind of make points I agree with are just terrible. With terrible usernames, too.

NelanisGhost posted:

The way things are, I really am fading as a fan, after many years.

They give Vader all kinds of crap for being awesome but the new golden boy Boba Fett, poops diamonds and lights up planets with his mere holy presence. He can do no wrong. He's really doing the universe and the Force a favor by killing "dirtbags" that deserve it... And here i thought he was a dirty killer.... Oh no no, that's Han and Leia at this point. SW is a lot like America. Up is down, black is white, war is peace. Oppression and socialism is "freedom". Maybe someone should tell these writers that the Sith were the bad guys, not the heroes?

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Angry Midwesterner posted:

This feels like a Make Fun of TFN day. Let's see what those neckbeards are over during Celebration...

Robimus finds a way to be butthurt over the announcement of a new Wraith Squadron book.


Even people who kind of make points I agree with are just terrible. With terrible usernames, too.

NelanisGhost posted:

The way things are, I really am fading as a fan, after many years.

They give Vader all kinds of crap for being awesome but the new golden boy Boba Fett, poops diamonds and lights up planets with his mere holy presence. He can do no wrong. He's really doing the universe and the Force a favor by killing "dirtbags" that deserve it... And here i thought he was a dirty killer.... Oh no no, that's Han and Leia at this point. SW is a lot like America. Up is down, black is white, war is peace. tv reality stars nude Oppression and socialism is "freedom". Maybe someone should tell these writers that the Sith were the bad guys, not the heroes?

Not to launch a political derail, but I'm curious to find out what this kind of theforce.net dweller would consider "socialist opression."

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