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Nursing...Please help me! It hurts, seriously it hurts. Latching hurts, even though things look correct, and the nurses said he was on correctly. Nipples are chafed, but I've got the Lansinoh ointment, so hopefully that will take care of that sooner than later. It hurts raw tube sex videos really badly when he latches on (all positions, both sides) and then after a few sucks downgrades to only hurting, but I can uncurl my toes. My eyes water in anticipation of the next feeding. Help me keep nursing guys!

Also, latching can be somewhat touch and go. Sometimes he chomps right on, and sometimes he thrashes about and won't settle down on the nipple that is plainly in his mouth.

BTW, Liam Patrick was born Friday, weighing in at a featherweight 9 pounds 8 ounces. We went home from the hospital today, and aside from nursing pain, we are well. Glad to be back home with Midget, all together now.

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AlistairCookie posted:

BTW, Liam Patrick was born Friday, weighing in at a featherweight 9 pounds 8 ounces. We went home from the hospital today, and aside from nursing pain, we are well. Glad to be back home with Midget, all together now.

Congrats! Hooray for big babies!

My first few days hurt like hell, as well. I honestly didn't think I could handle the pain, but I'm glad I stuck with it. Once my milk came in (4-5 days after delivery) it got MUCH less painful.

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Congrats on the new baby, AllistairCookie! I'm sorry to say that you are describing the exact pain I felt, complete with toe-curling, for the first month. Everyone here has always said to stick it out for 6 weeks, and I did, and it got better. There were days that I cried every time he started crying for a feed because I dreaded it so badly. I wore medela gel pads on my nipples to soothe the pain and keep my nipples from brushing against my clothing. I thought I never be able to go braless again, but you can call me Old Leather Nips now. It WILL get better. You can do it!

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Dec 19, 2006


AlistairCookie, congrats!

I was chicken and used nipple shields (nipples were peeling, grazed, very painful, scabby ), which helped them heal. When she was a wee bit older and more pro at latching, I weaned her off them. Some people don't like the idea of them because they're scared they won't be able to wean the baby off, but I personally had no problems.

It will get better though, you can be certain of that!

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It took about 6 weeks for nursing not to be toe-curlingly painful here, too. And then every now and again, her latch will change and I'll be in pain-land again. But it never lasts as long before I adapt.

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Aug 25, 2008



Congratulations, AlistairCookie! And yeah, I was reading your description and thinking, "That sounds about right." I will say that the pain only lasted a week for me, so maybe you'll be one of the lucky ones.

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Here's a less yucky picture!

Thanks for at least letting me know that I'm not crazy. Why do they perpetuate the myth that it won't hurt to nurse? There was even a sign in my hospital room: "Nursing should never hurt, and often indicates an improper latch. Consult a lactation specialist." Women should just be warned, it's gonna hurt.

To clarify, I don't mean the chafing, rawness kind of hurt. The ointment nipped that in the bud pretty well. I mean, my boob is on fire when he nurses! After letting him go to town for almost an hour this morning between 4am and 5am, I got out my old enemy, the pump. I pumped his next feeding and gave him a bottle to give them a rest for a little while. (Felt like a failure, but I needed a break.) We're coming up on another feeding though, and I'm going to latch him.

Since it doesn't hurt to pump, I feel like we are doing something wrong, but I cannot fathom what. We'll keep trying.

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Apr 14, 2005
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AlistairCookie posted:

Since it doesn't hurt to pump, I feel like we are doing something wrong, but I cannot fathom what. We'll keep trying.

Sometimes their latch is bad simply because their mouths are too small. I didn't have any pain at all with my first two kids. With Julia, it did hurt for a couple weeks but it got better quickly. I hope it gets better for you too.

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dreamcatcherkwe posted:

Sometimes their latch is bad simply because their mouths are too small. I didn't have any pain at all with my first two kids. With Julia, it did hurt for a couple weeks but it got better quickly. I hope it gets better for you too.

This. I really believe that is a big part of the pain. And I had the same exact pain, Alistaircookie, for about a month, then it got better, now I am totally pain free. I thought for sure I'd wean at 3 months to formula and we are now headed to nine months nursing. I have no idea when we'll wean, it's just so much easier now.

It gets easier. It really does.

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Feb 27, 2010

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Ugh.
Will someone please give me a better description of what a Braxton Hicks contraction feels like? My belly is like a drat rock right now. No matter what position I'm in or if I get up and walk around, it's a ROCK. I'm at 33 weeks.

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Is it like that, like all the time? Or does it come and go? If it comes and goes, that is a Braxton Hicks. If it's like that nonstop, then I don't know, and I might be worried myself in that situation.

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Twatty Seahag
Dec 30, 2007


Braxton Hicks come and go and will usually chill out if you change positions, walk around, etc. They CAN hurt, but you feel it more at the front and/or top of your stomach. I went to L&D twice when my stomach stayed hard like that for a few hours. If it's rock hard like, say, your forehead for an extended period of time I'd call and see if they want to check it out. Make sure you're really well-hydrated too.

RE: nursing...I was ready to give up at least once a week until now when my daughter is 8 weeks. I had pain the first week or so and then we just had issues all over the place. We've finally hit our stride and everyone was right, it IS getting so much easier! Hang in there.

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Does anyone have a solution for round ligament pain? It hurts like hell in my lower belly getting up from a sitting or lying position, or lifting my leg to put my shoes on. My husband tried to give me a tummy rub but with no relief.

It IS round ligament pain, right? It feels like a very, very bad muscle ache, like my tummy was doing squats all day

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Fire In The Disco posted:

Is it like that, like all the time? Or does it come and go? If it comes and goes, that is a Braxton Hicks. If it's like that nonstop, then I don't know, and I might be worried myself in that situation.

This just started over an hour ago. It's been hard non-stop since then.

Twatty Seahag posted:

Braxton Hicks come and go and will usually chill out if you change positions, walk around, etc. They CAN hurt, but you feel it more at the front and/or top of your stomach. I went to L&D twice when my stomach stayed hard like that for a few hours. If it's rock hard like, say, your forehead for an extended period of time I'd call and see if they want to check it out. Make sure you're really well-hydrated too.

I've tried walking around. I tried laying down. I drink water all the live long day, so I'm not sure how I can be dehydrated. I wouldn't be surprised to learn I drink more than 8 glasses a day. However, I do feel this hardening more on the top and front of my stomach.

Does it matter that I can feel her pushing against my belly? I'm probably fine, right?

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Listen, if you have any doubt, go into the L&D department and have them checked out. They're used to it and they will take you seriously. Braxton Hicks do feel very hard and tight but they don't tighten up and never go away. I always found that exercise was more likely to bring them on.

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Sometimes the baby would push up against my belly in a way that made it feel hard but it wasn't a tightening all over.

If you're concerned, you can definitely get it checked out.

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My vote would be to get it checked out if you still haven't had any reprieve from the tightness. Better to be safe than sorry.

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LuckyDaemon posted:

Does anyone have a solution for round ligament pain? It hurts like hell in my lower belly getting up from a sitting or lying position, or lifting my leg to put my shoes on. My husband tried to give me a tummy rub but with no relief.

It IS round ligament pain, right? It feels like a very, very bad muscle ache, like my tummy was doing squats all day

A maternity belt. My round ligament pain just sucks and the belt helps quite a bit.

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A Serious Woman
Sep 9, 2010


Congrats, AlistairCookie! That's one fine looking baby you have there!

Sorry to go back to the cosleeping issue but I'm getting pretty desperate. Unfortunately, Zoey barely tolerates clothes let alone being swaddled. We basically have to keep her in legless onesies to keep her content. If I put a blanket on her when she's napping, it always wakes her up and she screams and kicks until she gets the blanket off her. It's so weird that my baby likes to be cold; it's not like our house is overly hot (or cold for that matter).

I just don't know what to do to transition her from our bed to her bassinet. It seems like a bad idea to let a newborn cry it out for any period of time. I mean, I don't mind letting her fuss a little bit but I refuse to let her scream for any length of time.

Also, we've been up since 7:0am and it's now 10:00am. She hasn't so much as even closed her eyes to take a nap yet. Is it normal for a 2 1/2 week old to be awake for hours at a time?

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I know that dream asked you this on the last page, but I didn't see your answer: do you have a crib you can sidecar to your bed? That might be the best of both worlds-- cosleeping without having the baby directly in your bed.

As for the sleep thing, I think sometimes it's really easy to miss sleepy cues, and that chances are one was missed because it isn't very common for a wee one like that to stay up for hours at a time, so she's probably overly tired at this point.

As for the swaddling, how have you tried it? For some babies, swaddling them only works if you latch them on right afterward so they nurse to sleep in their swaddle.

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Oops, sorry I missed that about the crib/sidecar. Our bassinet is the exact same height as our bed and it has mesh sides so we can easily see each other. Unfortunately, drop side cribs are illegal in Canada (at least I'm pretty sure of this) so rigging our crib as a sidecar isn't an option. Our only other option is to buy an arms reach but we're a bit strapped for cash right now as we wait for my maternity leave payments to start.

Also, that is a fantastic about swaddling her just before I feed her. I am so trying that for our next feed. Fingers crossed!!

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I porn 16 years old think I know of a person who used a regular crib (not drop-side) to sidecar-- I think it just depends on if your crib is sturdy without one of the sides on. But I will ask around to be sure.

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Thanks again for the nursing support. Today has been better. The pain is less persistent as the feed goes on, provided I don't push it past 15 minutes a side. Unfortunately, that isn't always adequate for Hungerclese the Infant, (I have tolerated a couple of 50 minute plus feeds!) and he won't tolerate taking a short break with a paci or anything if he's still hungry. So what I've started doing is feeding him as long as he wants, or I can stand, whichever comes first. Then offering him a bottle afterwards if he's still hungry. He has nursed for a solid half hour, actively, and then still taken another ounce from a bottle! I've been doing a short pumping session a couple times a day between his feedings to make a little extra milk for a bottle supplement and to stimulate my supply in a way that isn't painful or stressful for me. Hopefully, in a couple or few days, my supply will be up enough that he can eat all he needs in a reasonable length of time.

Hopefully we've turned a corner, but at the very least, I don't feel as out of control about it (or in general I suppose) as I did. Stupid hormones...I've had the non stop weepies since about Day 2, especially after we came home from the hospital. Then being hit with unexpected nursing pain and the old feelings of Nursing Failure coming back didn't help.

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Does swapping side to side more often help? Like, 15 min right, 15 min left, 10 min right, 10 min left, for those 50 minute marathons?

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Fire In The Disco posted:

As for the swaddling, how have you tried it? For some babies, swaddling them only works if you latch them on right afterward so they nurse to sleep in their swaddle.

I would kiss you if I could! I can not believe how well this worked. After I tried this, she slept for two solid hours IN A ROW! Totally unbelievable!!


Eia posted:

Does swapping side to side more often help? Like, 15 min right, 15 min left, 10 min right, 10 min left, for those 50 minute marathons?

My lactation consultant has me doing this and it makes a big difference. It can be a little frustrating at times because we're still using a nipple shield and Zoey hates waiting the 30 seconds for me to put it on and then flip her around but it really has helped to regulate my supply.

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Eia posted:

Does swapping side to side more often help? Like, 15 min right, 15 min left, 10 min right, 10 min left, for those 50 minute marathons?

That is asia argento naked pics exactly what I did. It probably helped more than if I had not done that, but they were in both in the middle of the night, and the prospect of putting him back on the starting side for a teen suicide chat rooms third time at that point had me beside myself. I am using this strategy now (especially during the day), for sure, to help keep things even and hopefully get us on track. At our last feed, just an hour ago, he nursed both sides for a reasonable amount of time and de-latched himself.

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AlistairCookie posted:

Even though Liam (nickname pending...right now Daddy is liking Starvemaster 3000) is our second, I am feeling very inept at feeding him for the moment.

Ours is InsatiaBaby or Bottomless Pit Baby :3 And you are doing a great job, you're not inept! Nursing is hard!

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AlistairCookie posted:

That is hot big cock sex exactly what I did. It probably helped more than if I had not done that, but they were in both in the middle of the night, and the prospect of putting him back on the starting side for a fat woman free porn third time at that point had me beside myself. I am using this strategy now (especially during the day), for sure, to help keep things even and hopefully get us on track. At our last feed, just an hour ago, he nursed both sides for a reasonable amount of time and de-latched himself.

Even though Liam (nickname pending...right now Daddy is liking Starvemaster 3000) is our second, I am feeling very inept at feeding him for the moment.
I had so many days where I would cry bc I would nurse for an hour and then have to do it all over again in an hour. It hurt, and I pumped and gave bottles at times to just give myself some sanity. I WISH I could fast forward for you to 6 weeks, bc I PROMISE you it will get better. And once it does, there is nothing like it. Just keep at it.

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Dec 30, 2007


Me too, I would just sit on th couch and cry while I nursed her. I pumped and had my husband give her a bottle every so often when I thought I would lose my mind. Side-lying nursing in bed really helps me relax when she gets boob-crazy and wannts to clusterfeed for hours. Also get a special snack or something you can enjoy just when you're nursing. I know that sounds juvenile but it's nice to have something to look forward to.

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chknflvrdramen posted:

Ours is InsatiaBaby or Bottomless Pit Baby :3 And you are doing a great job, you're not inept! Nursing is hard!

Ours is "El Diablo Del Code Brown-o"

He slept in his crib for most of the night last night, it was very impressive and restful for my wife, so fingers crossed that he is getting used to it and doesn't lapse back.

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foxatee posted:

Will someone please give me a better description of what a Braxton Hicks contraction feels like? My belly is like a drat rock right now. No matter what position I'm in or if I get up and walk around, it's a ROCK. I'm at 33 weeks.

That happened to me a lot. The doctor gave me was they call in the US a non-stress test (monitor strapped to your belly for 30 minutes.) It was diagnosed as premature labor and the pills didn't work so I was put on hospital bedrest for 2 weeks. She still got born 3 weeks early so please take it seriously.

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YES! Thank you. Our area, the Seto Inland Sea, was completely unaffected. No one around here felt it. I didn't watch TV yesterday until my US friends started asking me if I was OK. All of our friends and extended family are safe.
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So I've finally figured out how to wear Zoey in our Moby wrap and she's loving it! I can't believe that it allows me to "hold" her hands free and get other things done. I think it might save my sanity. That being said, I don't want to wear her all the time. I'm a bit curious for those of you who use wraps, how often are you wearing your baby? I know you can't "spoil" a baby but I really don't want to set the expectation that she'll constantly be held/worn by me. I also realize she's only three weeks old so I know no real habits have been established yet.

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A Serious Woman posted:

So I've finally figured out how to wear Zoey in our Moby wrap and she's loving it! I can't believe that it allows me to "hold" her hands free and get other things done. I think it might save my sanity. That being said, I don't want to wear her all the time. I'm a bit curious for those of you who use wraps, how often are you wearing your baby? I know you can't "spoil" a baby but I really don't want to set the expectation that she'll constantly be held/worn by me. I also realize she's only three weeks old so I know no real habits have been established yet.
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A Serious Woman posted:

So I've finally figured out how to wear Zoey in our Moby wrap and she's loving it! I can't believe that it allows me to "hold" her hands free and get other things done. I think it might save my sanity. That being said, I don't want to wear her all the time. I'm a bit curious for those of you who use wraps, how often are you wearing your baby? I know you can't "spoil" a baby but I really don't want to set the expectation that she'll constantly be held/worn by me. I also realize she's only three weeks old so I know no real habits have been established yet.

I wore G as needed, like if he was fussy and needed to be walked around the house a lot, on errands, or if I really had to do something around the house and he refused to be put down. Sometimes I'd wear him multiple times a day for days in a row, other times I'd go a couple of weeks without putting it on.

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I wore Cecilia constantly until about 4 months old, because she needed to be held by me and I needed to be able to do stuff. It was a way for both of us to have what we needed. After that she wanted some independent time, so I didn't wear her at home as much but still wore her out a lot. And then she started moving-- army crawling, rolling, etc. By 8 or so months old she was never worn at home, because she always wanted to do her own thing. I don't think you'll be setting in stone any habits that won't change as your baby grows, even if you wore her for every waking and sleeping second of her day right now.

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A Serious Woman posted:

So I've finally figured out how to wear Zoey in our Moby wrap and she's loving it! I can't believe that it allows me to "hold" her hands free and get other things done. I think it might save my sanity. That being said, I don't want to wear her all the time. I'm a bit curious for those of you who use wraps, how often are you wearing your baby? I know you can't "spoil" a baby but I really don't want to set the expectation that she'll constantly be held/worn by me. I also realize she's only three weeks old so I know no real habits have been established yet.

Babies want their independence as they get older and mobile. My baby was constantly in a wrap for the first few months but now she wants to explore and chase cats 90% of the time. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

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Hi folks, my wife and I are just coming out of the closet now even though she's entering the 2nd trimester already. We wanted to wait until after the first sonogram was all good before spilling the beans. How common is that? Now that we're telling people some think it's odd we kept it under wraps for so long.
Ultrasound was on Friday morning, everything looks perfect! She (using 'she' for now, just for convenience sake) appeared to be reclining peacefully at first but once the probe started moving around she would not sit still, wiggling all over the place. Does not bode well for my poor wife as the months wear on.

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