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Dec 12, 2006

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Sil posted:

e. What we obviously need is a Jaghut series because they are by far the most awesome characters in all the books. No other POVs. Just Jaghuts. Some Tyrant, Hood, Gothos. Nice and simple.
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I can't actually read spoilers tags yet because I'm only half way through, but, topically, marriage and sex counseling Hood appearing out of nowhere and biting a forkrul assail face in half totally owned. The way I picture it in my head, he did it really casually, like taking a bite out of a cheeseburger, and then pausing thoughtfully.

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Oct 23, 2004
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Still the dude does have father daughter sex tapes the Sceptre of Darkness. Re-reading the scene (p.59-60 in my book) where he re-appears, I get the crazy theory of him being the creation of Draconus and Mother Dark taking souls chained within Dragnipur and chaining them to one body. With the chains and him telling the 'Mother' she could/should have kept him as a child...
I finally got to this scene with Quick Ben, and it seems much more like he is office sex on tape related to the Shake or the Edur with the way he talks about Mother and Father. Someone in DoD (Yedan Derryg?) mentions that Scar Bandaris was the last surviving Edur prince after the original war on the First Shore, which means Scabandari isn't the original Father Shadow. Quick could still be the real Father Shadow, which fits his personality to a tee.

He mentions what Anomander did in TTH, and how Nimander will have to get the Sceptre of Darkness from him if he wants it, and the phrasing makes it sounds like he's not an Andii himself. Yedan also mentioned that the Edur were somehow the Andii's way out of Kurald Galain after MD/FL turned away, so his involvement on the side of Shadow fits. Maybe he stole the Sceptre (or used it legitimately) to make a way out.

He also mentions how he almost finished them off, which seems to be referring to the K'Chain races, who were the first target of Tiste aggression on Wu.

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I'm thinking about finally picking up this series for plane flight reading. Two questions: is it available on kindle, and, after looking at that graphic at the start of the thread, is there a "best accepted" reading order? Just go by the numbers?

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Transistor Rhythm posted:

Yes, go by the numbers no matter what people tell you. Just accept that your favorite characters might disappear for entire books at a time.

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Infinite Karma posted:

I finally got to this scene with Quick Ben

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Jul 17, 2007

A raccoon is not finished when he is defeated. He is finished when he quits.


He also had access to their warren in the first book to do that soul shifting stuff.

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VanillaGorilla
Oct 2, 2003


Wow. Just finished, and I was bawling like a kid with a skinned knee the entire way through the epilogues. This whole series was amazing, but TCG really felt like Erikson's masterwork. I hope we don't have to wait too long for whatever comes next from him.

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Hieronymous Alloy posted:

I'm thinking about finally picking up this series for plane flight reading. Two questions: is it available on kindle, and, after looking at that graphic at the start of the thread, is there a "best accepted" reading order? Just go by the numbers?

I can't see in what life you'll finish this series if it's for "plane reading," just sayin.

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Nigulus Rex posted:

I can't see in what life you'll finish this series if it's for "plane reading," just sayin.

I've got two 30 hour plane flights coming up to New Zealand and back, and I read ~1000+ pages a day when I'm reading pulp fiction. So I need something with enough bulk to keep me occupied :P

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VanillaGorilla posted:

I hope we don't have to wait too long for whatever comes next from him.
He's writing the first Kharkanas book now, and he's said that he's going to write at his relaxed casual speed of a novel every 18 months, instead of his previous focused speed of a novel a year. So, still ridiculously fast.

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Hieronymous Alloy posted:

I've got two 30 hour plane flights coming up to New Zealand and back, and I read ~1000+ pages a day when I'm reading pulp fiction. So I need something with enough bulk to keep me occupied :P

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Oct 23, 2003

It's both thrilling and terrifying.

I just finished Reaper's Gale last night. Really fantastic throughout, probably one of my favorite of the series.

Some of the stuff that happened at the end just wrecked me.

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Welp. Now I want to kill myself.

Other highlights:
- Everytime an ancient badass thought they could just wreck poo poo up, only to get swatted down before they started (Quick Ben holding back the three sisters, Fiddler and Hedge shooting Silchas out of the sky)
- Onrack and Kilava reunion
- Tool showing up a minute too late (does any character in this series suffer more than Toc?)
- Tehol becoming Emperor
- Beak's sacrifice (very reminiscent of Itkovian)
- Brys coming back

Yeah, pretty much the whole climax was awesome.


Now to read...sigh...Return of the Crimson Guard.

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qbert posted:

I just finished Reaper's Gale last night. Really fantastic throughout, probably one of my favorite of the series.

Some of the stuff that happened at the end just wrecked me.

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Welp. Now I want to kill myself.

Other highlights:
- Everytime an ancient badass thought they could just wreck poo poo up, only to get swatted down before they started (Quick Ben holding back the three sisters, Fiddler and Hedge shooting Silchas out of the sky)
- Onrack and Kilava reunion
- Tool showing up a minute too late (does any character in this series suffer more than Toc?)
- Tehol becoming Emperor
- Beak's sacrifice (very reminiscent of Itkovian)
- Brys coming back

Yeah, pretty much the whole climax was awesome.


Now to read...sigh...Return of the Crimson Guard.

I enjoyed RotCG. It's not bad at all as nice boy said.

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To be fair though, pussy in the water his ending pretty much owned. Know he's partying it up forever with his buddies the Bridgeburners, and all he had to do was go through several cycles of pain and suffering to get his invite into the club. How is it possible that Whiskeyjack continues to be one of the best characters in this series after being half rotted and dead for 7 books or so

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Nov 12, 2003



I'm still on Tides and I read spoilers because they don't really seem to bother me knowing what's going on. But drat if TCG stuff doesn't piss me off that I'm not there yet. Not that I'm going to mind reading the rest of the series but I want to see what happens!

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Jul 17, 2007

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I would say the Emperor of a Thousand Deaths suffered quite a bit.

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Not that it isn't deserved, but still.

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Not that it isn't deserved, but still.

Well if we're going to go in that direction, I might point out Draconus, who for hundreds of thousands of years got stuck into his own contained little invention.

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Yeah, you're right.porn pictures with stories His ending made me cry happy tears for the first time (for him.)

I think there are other characters who may have it worse, Hetan for example, but Toc is different. You get to know him better. You get to REALLY like him. And before he ever actually does anything, he starts getting hosed over. And over. And over. And over. In my opinion, he was simply the most tragic. (And the second I say that I start second guessing it... Coltaine, Dukier, hell, even Rake.) Whatever. I feel for Toc the most.


^^Yeah, her story is tragic, but we never get to know her, so I think it's easy to just shrug off and say "that sucks."

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Waddley Hasselhoff posted:

Yeah, you're right.free nude pregnant porn His ending made me cry happy tears for the first time (for him.)

I think there are other characters who may have it worse, Hetan for example, but Toc is different. You get to know him better. You get to REALLY like him. And before he ever actually does anything, he starts getting hosed over. And over. And over. And over. In my opinion, he was simply the most tragic. (And the second I say that I start second guessing it... Coltaine, Dukier, hell, even Rake.) Whatever. I feel for Toc the most.


^^Yeah, her story is tragic, but we never get to know her, so I think it's easy to just shrug off and say "that sucks."

I feel like if Rhulad had books in his perspective during his countless times being killed he would be more tragic, but for the reason you listed that Toc is so fleshed out, we feel for him more.

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Oct 23, 2003

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I feel like if Rhulad had books in his perspective during his countless times being killed he would be more tragic, but for the reason you listed that Toc is so fleshed out, we feel for him more.

Well the thing with Rhulad is that free wwe divas porn he hom made sex video chose to get killed over and over. Sure, he didn't choose to be immortal, but no one was forcing him to fight champions and get killed over and over. The Crippled God gave him the means, and then relied on his inherent greed to do the rest.

A Nice Boy posted:

RotCG ain't bad, don't fret.

I hope you're right. NoK was so painful to get through, and the only reason I did was because it was relatively short. I can't take 700+ pages of that same quality of writing/characterization.

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qbert posted:

NoK was so painful to get through, and the only reason I did was because it was relatively short. I can't take 700+ pages of that same quality of writing/characterization.

Then don't do it. It is a step up from NoK, but it's still barely on par with a mediocre Forgotten Realms novelization, only less entertaining. You will likely regret the time wasted.

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Junk Science posted:

Then don't do it. It is a step up from NoK, but it's still barely on par with a mediocre Forgotten Realms novelization, only less entertaining. You will likely regret the time wasted.

This has been a subject of debate for awhile. Personally, I liked it enough to include it in my reread when I went through the series a second time. There are a few b-plots that go nowhere(cop beats up teen the girl whose rescued by the swordsmaster is pointless) but it has major ramifications in the Malazan world and even effects things in books 8 and 10.

Esslemont basically took over the happenings back in the Malazan Empire itself while Erikson moved back to Genebackis in book 8 and Lether/surrounds in 9 and 10. So if you care about what happens with Laseen as well as tons of other characters like Urko, Toc the Elder, etc, it's worth reading. He improved in every aspect of his writing fron NoK to RotCG, though he's still not even close to Erikson.

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Then don't do it. It is a step up from NoK, but it's still barely on par with a mediocre Forgotten Realms novelization, only less entertaining. You will likely regret the time wasted.

That's massively underrating ICE's writing in my opinion. Even second-rate Malazan is superior to any of the garbage spewed out under the Forgotten Realms name, and ICE did a much better job with RotCG than NoK, so much so in fact that I would consider it his proper debut. It's akin to GotM in many ways, being pretty rough around the edges and a bit slow to get going, but once the action picks up you won't be able to tear yourself away.

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That's massively underrating ICE's writing in my opinion. Even second-rate Malazan is superior to any of the garbage spewed out under the Forgotten Realms name, and ICE did a much better job with RotCG than NoK, so much so in fact that I would consider it his proper debut. It's akin to GotM in many ways, being pretty rough around the edges and a bit slow to get going, but once the action picks up you won't be able to tear yourself away.

i disagree, i honestly think he's a pretty bad author by any standard. i gave RotCG an honest shot but 400 pages in and he still hasn't made me care one whit about anything. i'm going to spoil myself on the highlights of the rest of his books unless somebody comes along and says that a given book is actually on par with the rest of the series.

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Just finished up with TCG and it was pretty amazing. He managed to fit more into it than I thought he would in terms of character closure. Anyways I'm sad its over, one of the best series I've ever read Some great sendoffs for most of the cast but I'll post more on those when I've had a bit of time to digest everything.

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