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I don't think it's an actual cover, just something he drew to sell.

That explains it. It seems too blatant for a cover, but seems like something someone would commission.

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Seriously? Four pages and no mention of Moebius?



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Mr Wind Up Bird posted:

You know who actually sucks? Greg Horn



Go away Greg Horn you've never drawn anything good ever.
As I was scrolling down the page, I was digging the details on the Batsuit, like the cowl and gloves, and then scrolled the whole image into view, and.. yeah. Wow. What the hell?

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This thread reminded me of something I posted in a "Funny Panels" thread awhile ago and I had to dig it up. Unfortunately I cannot for the life of me remember what it is from. It's obviously Marvel from the J.J. reference but other than that I do not recognize it all



The guys hair, forehead, and eyes are simply horrible. The girls arms creep me out. It's painful on my eyes possibly due to the lack of perspective (or multiple ones).

I am not an artist by any means and when I look at something like a comic and think "with very little effort I believe I could draw better than that" then I lose all respect.

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Seriously? Four pages and no mention of Moebius?

Shame on you, BSS.


I just now saw this thread. Now I've gotta post my scans of my copy of Le Bandard Fou. There is some FANTASTIC art in it, and here's some pages from one of the stories.

Honestly, I love Moebius. One of the best comic artists, ever.









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Yeah, I've actually had (non-comic related art) professors that have used panels of his as examples during lectures before.

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Mr Wind Up Bird posted:

You know who actually sucks? Greg Horn



Go away Greg Horn you've never drawn anything good ever.

What's great about this image is that you scroll down it and it goes from "hmm, that is a pretty crappy Batman head" to "awkwardly posed too, and I don't like the shading" to "oh god, is that someone's butt?" to "oh poo poo no ".

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Inio Asano's totally tits, it's true, but I want to look at some more Humberto Ramos.



Ramos has some problems, but I always thought he was the ideal guy for drawing a book like Impulse. Usually just the right amount of cartoony with the big feet and big head. Facial features not bound by the mortal constraints of what can fit on a face.

Also, didn't he do part of "Word Without Grown-ups" or whatever it was called, the story that led to the creation of Young Justice? He did the section in the "kid's world" and another artist did the "adult" world. I thought that was a really good use of his style

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All of the men's facial expressions are so over referenced they don't even appear real, then you keep scrolling down the image and oh god I now feel terrible that I even have a penis.

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I really like this week's Uncanny X-Men's cover (and it's not Land!). It really feels like an old Star Wars poster (probably intentional, given the storyline). It was penciled by watch free jamaican porn Terry Dodson, according to Marvel's site.

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Yeah, I'm just stating my citation. Also, I know I didn't even notice the signature there the first time, so I wanted to make it a bit more human-readable. Plus, I don't know if he inked/colored it, so I'm just giving what I do know.

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The worst part about the Catwoman picture is that neither of her legs appear to be touching the ground. Hell, both of her shins appear to be missing. She's clearly balancing on her tits.

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The worst part about the Catwoman picture is that neither of her legs appear to be touching the ground. Hell, both of her shins appear to be missing. She's clearly balancing on her tits.

In the Powergirl picture a few posts up I thought PG was missing everything below her torso. Basically her entire body is made up of her chest, her arms, her neck and head.

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Please tell me this is from a Comic, and if so, the name of it.

EthanEde posted:

Greg Horn is so terrible, that catwoman is terrible in every way. And then there is this


All of the men's facial expressions are so over referenced they don't even appear real, then you keep scrolling down the image and oh god I now feel terrible that I even have a penis.

The Men's expressions are nothing compared to Powergirl's facial expressions, they look so fake, plus, they give a "lovely movie poster" vibe that pisses the poo poo out of me.

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SGRaaize posted:

The Men's expressions are nothing compared to Powergirl's facial expressions, they look so fake, plus, they give a "lovely movie poster" vibe that pisses the poo poo out of me.
I actually quite like PG's facial expression--it's not a blank porn face or anything, and there's actual character there.

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Greg Horn is so terrible, that catwoman is terrible in every way. And then there is this


All of the men's facial expressions are so over referenced they don't even appear real, then you keep scrolling down the image and oh god I now feel terrible that I even have a penis.

I think it's pretty obvious by now that Greg Horn has some female issues and gets off on seeing them dominated and in submissive poses.

The Power Girl one is an interesting example, as she's always been a strong feminist character(albeit stereotypical, as comic book nerds obviously aren't good at writing those). She's obviously supposed to be in some sort of army boot camp and the drillmaster is screaming 100 PUSHUPS MAGGOT! at her...but it still manages to look sexual instead. If she looked angry or at least determined, it may have made it a bit better.

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Mister Roboto posted:

I think it's pretty obvious by now that Greg Horn has some female issues and gets off on seeing them dominated and in submissive poses.

It's hard to argue against that when he does poo poo like this:

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SGRaaize posted:

they give a "lovely movie poster" vibe that pisses the poo poo out of me.

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fritz posted:

The drill sergeant looks an awful lot like R Lee Ermey.

The pose is from a shot in Full Metal Jacket but other than that it looks nothing like him.

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EthanEde posted:

Greg Horn is so terrible, that catwoman is terrible in every way. And then there is this


All of the men's facial expressions are so over referenced they don't even appear real, then you keep scrolling down the image and oh god I now feel terrible that I even have a penis.

Im trying to make sense of this picture. The DI is in marine MARPAT cammies, and so are the pants, but the 3 patrol caps are army issue with a completely different pattern, and what looks like a Lt. Colonel rank on them.

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Another FF image, but I think he was such a genius and was on the verge of something that would have made him a household name.

I was trying to find my least favorite piece of comic art, which again is the Fantastic Four. It's an overly-90s Reed Richards who is just so over-muscled. If I remember correctly, it was Herb Trimpe who had been told to ape Liefeld.

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redbackground posted:

I actually quite like PG's facial expression--it's not a blank porn face or anything, and there's actual character there.

I like her facial expression too, and the concept for the image isn't bad. Boob jokes are fairly common under certain writers of Power Girl, so the idea of a drill master getting upset at her because she can't do a proper push up due to her giant breasts isn't that out of place. Her expression of "welp, nothing I can do about it" gives a good sense of character. If it were just her and the drill master it would be pretty good.

The background is an absolute mess. Why is Nathan Fillion so shocked at her that he's cowering in fear and his hat flew off. Is his secret fear women doing push ups and each one causes him to cower even further? The hat in the air shows that he suddenly shot down in a split second, so fast he left his hat behind. Why is Ludacris so excited? Is it cause he's looking at her butt? Does he want her to succeed? Why is he in a white t-shirt. Ludacris guy also isn't lit the way the rest of the scene is. It looks like it's at dawn or sunset, with low light, and Ludacris looks like he was photographed inside with a flash.

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It's hard to argue against that when he does poo poo like this:


Bloody hell, that's indefensible. Why would you even draw that?!

Parts of the PG picture look like photos just comped in there, too. What an utter tool.

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Thank you for posting that. Biukovic deserves to be remembered.
I wanted to mention Prayer to the Sun since this thread started, I have that issue of Wierd War Tales but no scanner.
His work on Grendel, Star Wars and The Human Target is just as impressive.

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My favorite comic artists are dead.

Yep. . .



Herge was the reason I got into reading comics when I was a kid. I just love how simplistic yet elegant his style is. Herge was brilliant at painting a world, without leaving Belgium he managed to create exotic foreign vistas using photo-references.(he wasn't too good at portraying non-Belgians though)



I also think that Herge is brilliant at conveying motion and emotion, especially with Captain Haddock.



I wish I had some better examples, but I can't find much else right now that's not a cover.

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Bloody hell, that's indefensible. Why would you even draw that?!

Honestly? Probably because he knows some undersexed nerd will buy it for lots of money.

I'm not justifying it or saying it's not demeaning, but I will say it's not BAD art. He has some degree of skill, he is just clearly pandering for those who want sexy women in distress without going on full naked.


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This one is a bit creepy.

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Jim Lawson — classic TMNT artist (the best, I think) with a deceptively simple style and loads of personality, always perfectly balancing comedy and pathos. He's one of those artists whose pencils never look nearly as good when other people ink them.


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Igor Kordey: It was just Cable in the beginning. I would always deliver finished artwork a bit ahead of time. I knew, by previous experience, that anything can happen to you physically, and that is better to have episode or two in stock in advance, that to be late.

At same time Mr. Tischman, the writer, started to be involved in writing for some TV serial and being late with scripts. I started to ask for new jobs, to fill bigger and bigger gaps. So came Black Widow, and bit later, an offer to fill in for New X-Men. Issue #120 was first, and after I did it in ten days – pencils and inks, editors were so happy, that they offered me #119 to do – the other guys were still late with their part.

And then it started: offers for Captain America and the Storm “Arena” story; everybody wanted me to work for them. I phoned and said: I can do it, but if you like me so much, give me higher rate per page. After two days I was offered exclusive contract – and the rest is a legend.

NRAMA: Over the years you were at Marvel, it seemed as the pendulum of quality swung in wild arcs, with your Cable and Soldier X being quite solid, while your New X-Men fill ins, while good, had almost a manic energy behind them, and in the eyes of a lot of readers, not up to the quality of your Cable work. What happened? Were you just overloaded?

Kordey: Yes. In May of ’02, I ended up finishing four books in parallel: the last Cable, the first Soldier X, the last part of Black Widow and New X-Men #124. It was insane! And it was logical to fail, at least in on one of them – New X-Men happened to be that horrific book.

NRAMA: In those days where you had what many artists would see as an overloaded plate, what was your timetable to complete a full issue?

Kordey: A week. The Shi-ar arc looks really horrible, but I still like my Fantomex arc – it’s strong, man! Actually, I received a lot of support and appreciation for that arc from numerous fans from Europe, who were ecstatic about such grittiness and expressiveness in X-Men world.

NRAMA: That said though, did you ever turn in an issue where you felt it wasn’t up to your normal standards for quality?

Kordey: …from today’s point of view, many of those books are bellow my standards of quality…that’s the fact. I got lost in delusions that this expressiveness is the right way to do it, and nobody stopped me. I received a very polite call from my X-Men editor about necessity to become slick, but at that time I didn’t have a clue what the heck is that suppose to mean, and nobody complained too much as long as books were coming on time.

I think, that’s the crucial moment – nobody said “Hey, stop! Wait a second! Put yourself together! Let’s work it out together; this, this and that is wrong! Try again and take it slow…” I was my only judge, jury and executioner all the time. In the publishing industry editors are skippers, they navigating the writer through all storms, whirlpools, and quicksand of novel writing. Those are people with vision, and for most comic editors you can not give such attribute… I never had luck to work with strong visionaries like, Axel Alonso, for example.

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Geekboy posted:

I always feel bad for Igor Kordey. The guy was brought on to rush a book that had fallen behind and he did the absolutely impossible job he was hired to do. His work suffered from how quickly he'd had to crank it out and instead of the system being blamed for the problem, he get's all the crap for it. He's actually pretty good when he has more than a week to finish a book.

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drat. If you had just shown me those covers from the article and said they were all by the same guy, I would have called you a dirty liar. That's a huge contrast of quality.

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Huh I always thought that, while the art was strange and wild in New X-men that it totally fit the story. I wasn't reading his other works at the time but I felt like this was art that filled around the G-Mo story I was reading. It's a big part of why I really like that run. It messes with my head just looking at the page. It's all strange and squishy, totally not the bright and shiny X-men you become accustomed to.

Solvalou posted:


So I clicked on the thread and this one pops right in the middle of the screen. I look at it and for one beautiful moment my brain spells out this story of Doctor Nemesis turning Wolverine into a giant bunny rabbit.

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