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Jan 24, 2004

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Just finished upgrading to Lion and already I'm having problems.

My ethernet port is now all but useless. I can assign it an IP and it says "Connected", but I can't ping the Mac from other machines on the network, I can't ping anything from the Mac, and moon bloodgood nude scene I can't even ping its own IP from the Mac itself.

What the gently caress?

EDIT: Hurf, durf, that was easy. The upgrade installer nuked the subnet mask in the network config.

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Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.


~Coxy posted:

They replaced it with their own implementation which apparently works with Win7 machines but not much else, including WinXP and random NAS devices/ XBMC/Boxee/etc.

You can install samba3 through MacPorts, and I'm sure someone will package it soonish when it becomes apparent that we're back to the 10.1 days of nothing loving working interoperability-wise.

There is an RC build on the boxee box forums that works with Lion. It supports Lions SMB, AFP, and also NFS



For clean installs. Once you run the installer, reboot and hold down option. you will have a Recovery HD option now. Boot to it and you can clean install lion.

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Nov 23, 2007

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hannibal posted:

- Is there a newer XCode out now? I thought I had the version from the MAS but when I launch it I get an error saying XCode 3 is not compatible with Lion (of course). The Mac Dev Center seems to be overwhelmed right now (maybe other people trying to download xcode?)
Doh. I have a long-standing bug that has yet to be fixed in Xcode 4...

KidDynamite posted:

If you have a paid dev account you can get Xcode 4 for free. If not it's 5 bucks on the app store.
I believe you need Xcode 4.1 for Lion, actually.

hannibal posted:

The Mac Dev Center seems to be overwhelmed right now (maybe other people trying to download xcode?)
I haven't been able to hit it for the last few hours, glad to hear I'm not the only one.






Hey, anyone using Lion, what's the status of QT7? In the betas, it would offer to download it if needed, but always failed.

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Jun 16, 2006

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I'd love a listing from you guys of 3rd party software that you've confirmed is working/not working on Lion right now. At least the big names. I just read that the latest Ableton Live is hosed.

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~Coxy posted:

They replaced it with their own implementation which apparently works with Win7 machines but not much else, including WinXP and random NAS devices/ XBMC/Boxee/etc.

I've been using it with XP, Samba, and other SMB implementations with no problems. At this moment I'm connected to an XP share and there's an XP computer connected to my shares.

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If you have a paid dev account you can get Xcode 4 for free. If not it's 5 bucks on the app store.


And no sadly Xcode 3 does not work on Lion. I hope some new Obj-C, OS X, and iOS books come out written using Xcode 4.

I realize this, but I don't see Xcode on the MAS anymore. Searching for 'xcode' just comes up with some shortcuts app. It's still in my Purchased list but when I click on it I get a "Could not complete this request" error.

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Oh phew, you can disable the reversed scrolling direction. As long as I have another computer that can't run Lion, no way in hell am I switching.

And it seems we have to wait for a while before we can do time machine backups to anything other than the time capsule or another mac. You need the latest netatalk version to support all the required AFP features, and that version is closed source (for now) due to the maintainer trying to force NAS vendors to pay him.

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So, uh, apparently iTunes 10.4 is now 64-bit Cocoa on Lion? That seems like a bigger deal than is worthy of an incremental minor version bump.

EDIT: BIG NEWS ITUNES 10.4 ON LION DOES NOT HAVE ANNOYING STUPID NON-STANDARD WINDOW WIDGETS ANY MORE



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So does anyone know what's up with QT7 on Lion? I'm worried about installing now that someone else is worried.

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I'm downloading Lion for my MBP at home right now, but I have 2 machines at work that I would like to upgrade (they are my macs, this isn't a :files: question since we are allowed 5 installs per Lion purchase) but they are connected to lovely, lovely DSL. Trying to download a 3.5 gig file on those crap phonelines would be bullshit, so can I just throw the .dmg file onto a usb stick and upgrade the work macs via that?

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Mar 28, 2001

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El Jackalope posted:

I'm downloading Lion for my MBP at home right now, but I have 2 machines at work that I would like to upgrade (they are my macs, this isn't a :files: question since we are allowed 5 installs per Lion purchase) but they are connected to lovely, lovely DSL. Trying to download a 3.5 gig file on those crap phonelines would be bullshit, so can I just throw the .dmg file onto a usb stick and upgrade the work macs via that?

You get unlimited installs with lion btw plus 2 vm's per machine.

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El Jackalope posted:

I'm downloading Lion for my MBP at home right now, but I have 2 machines at work that I would like to upgrade (they are my macs, this isn't a :files: question since we are allowed 5 installs per Lion purchase) but they are connected to lovely, lovely DSL. Trying to download a 3.5 gig file on those crap phonelines would be bullshit, so can I just throw the .dmg file onto a usb stick and upgrade the work macs via that?

Do it before you install Lion on your machine, it will delete the installer after you install it.

Strange that XCode 3 works for you, it flat out refused to install when I upgraded.

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Jan 24, 2004

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Looks like Internet Sharing is busted on Lion. Under Snow Leopard I had a configuration set up where I would share my office wireless connection with my desktop via Ethernet on my MacBook Pro.

Worked like a charm, until I upgraded to Lion. Now, while I can get the two machines to see one another and ping one another and even ssh to one another, I can't get the desktop to reach the internet through the MacBook anymore.

This loving sucks. I really need this connection. Anyone have any suggestions?

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Don Lapre posted:

You get unlimited installs with lion btw plus 2 vm's per machine.

Yes, you can image the dmg to a usb stick or burn it to a dvd with disc utility.

Thanks dude.

flyboi posted:

Do it before you install Lion on your machine, it will delete the installer after you install it.

Thanks for the heads up.

Edit: is the location for that in the Downloads folder once it's done dling from the App Store?

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Yes, you can image the dmg to a usb stick or burn it to a dvd with disc utility.

Which is only good for upgrades right? And you can run it off the stick? Does it force an AppleID login every install?

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Edit: is the location for that in the Downloads folder once it's done dling from the App Store?

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Mar 28, 2001

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Ziploc posted:

Which is only good for upgrades right? And you can run it off the stick? Does it force an AppleID login every install?

No, you can clean install off of it. Insert usb drive or dvd, boot up holding option, and boot off of it. No authentication required. You are never asked for an appleID or anything.

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No, you can clean install off of it. Insert usb drive or dvd, boot up holding option, and boot off of it. No authentication required. You are never asked for an appleID or anything.

This is amazing. I was going to hold off, but it turns out I can make my own USB Lion key for 30$ instead of waiting for physical release?

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Mar 28, 2001

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This is amazing. I was going to hold off, but it turns out I can make my own USB Lion key for 30$ instead of waiting for physical release?

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Sri.Theo posted:

I can't upgrade to Lion on my MacBook, but will the apps like iCal and Mail update? Or will they be part of a new iLife but still run once purchased? Or they won't work at all because they have lots of Lion specific stuff?

Ak you're all too excited about your new shiny stuff, but I'm going to try again. Does anyone know if the new Mail/Address Book will work with Snow Leopard on a Dual Core MacBook?

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I already used Disk Utility to image the hidden install image onto a nice fast 2.5" drive, optimized the drive by cloning it to yet another drive and cloning it back onto the 2.5", and it works like a charm; much faster than the USB key since it's in a FW800 / USB enclosure.

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I'm going to be getting the new Macbook Air (my first Mac!) on the weekend, and I'm wondering if there's anything I really should get at the same time. What sort of apps would you guys consider must-have for an OSX newcomer?

Also, from what I understand, iWork doesn't come with new Macs like iLife does, and I'll be typing lots of lecture notes that I'd like to be able to read in Word 2007 on PC. What should I choose to get, iWork or Office 2011?

Depends heavily on what you want with it / where you're coming from. If you are a Windows user, TotalFinder rocks your world.

As far as iWork, yes, it's a separate package. It reads Office docs just fine, but it won't save them if I remember correctly.

Personally, I like them just fine for casual use, but if you're going to be doing heavy spreadsheet stuff, or having to do a lot of file exchanging with office apps, it's probably best to just get Office.

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I dual-boot my Macbook with Windows 7 and SL using rEFIt. Will installing Lion likely gently caress my setup up or overwrite rEFIt or something? Has anyone with a similar setup tried it?

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Sri.Theo posted:

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They will not. You want Lion versions, you buy Lion, one way or another. Your way's just more expensive than most people's.

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I dual-boot my Macbook with Windows 7 and SL using rEFIt. Will installing Lion likely gently caress my setup up or overwrite rEFIt or something? Has anyone with a similar setup tried it?

On a new blank hard drive, installing Lion will create a hidden recovery drive partition, forgot the exact size but it's at least 20-30 GB. I'd imagine it'd gently caress up a non-standard setup (anything with partitions other than HFS+) hard, but I'll try it on one of my BootCamped machines and see.

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