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Hello and welcome to the exciting new sf/fantasy thread! All kinds of science fiction and fantasy are welcome, including stuff that falls on the edges of the genres; don't feel you're talking about the wrong sort of sf/f, because someone out there is probably just as enthusiastic about it as you are. Discussing non-sf/f by writers mostly known for their sf/f is welcome as a contrast to the main subject.

This thread is probably going to run a while. Don't feel you need to read 100+ pages to post, but likewise, please be aware that discussion of a certain book/series may have come up before and be a bit of a dead horse. Don't be disheartened if you get a cool response.

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Hints on posting:
  • Post about books you're excited about! And mention the author or title.
  • Whether you're discussing a book or asking for recommendations, include lots of details to give us something to talk about and give us a taste of what you like!
  • If there's a thread for the book, series, or author you want to post about, post there! You'll probably get a better reply. If there isn't one, consider starting one.
  • Post your opinion, not somebody else's stale talking points. Noting popular opinions alongside your own is great.
  • Don't discuss how bad [insert male sf writer here]'s sex scenes are. They're awful. We know. And for God's sake don't discuss how good they are either!
  • Don't recommend David Weber's “Honor Harrington” series. It always provokes a derail about how bad they are and mentions of Rob S. Pierre. Same with Terry Goodkind and “this was no chicken”.
  • If someone asks for recommendations, pay attention to what they're asking for.

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Here's NPR's hundred favourite sf/f books (you'll need to download it to make it big enough to read):

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All these links are to the Science Fiction Award Database; if you click on the Awards tab, the major awards are towards the top of the display. The most prestigious sf/f book awards are the Hugo and Nebula for science fiction and the World Fantasy Award.

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Here's a list of subgenres of sf, with goon-favourite authors and links to SA threads where relevant. Authors have probably written in more than one subgenre, but are listed in the one they're most famous for. There's a brief list of genre hoppers at the end.

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Spaceships fighting aliens in space. Star Trek and such. But writers like Iain M. Banks do great things with it.
Authors: S. A. Corey, Peter F. Hamilton, Lois McMaster Bujold, John Scalzi, E. E. “Doc” Smith, Neal Asher, Joe Haldeman
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The cold, logical, end of science fiction. Supposedly scientifically accurate, but they still have ftl travel anyway.
Authors: Ted Chiang, Alastair Reynolds, Nancy Kress, Larry Niven, Hal Clement, Peter Watts, Greg Egan, Kim Stanley Robinson, Robert L. Forward, Vernor Vinge
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Asimov, Clarke, and Heinlein are the “Big Three” sf authors up to the 60s and all very influential.
Arthur C. Clarke: technology in a world where everyone's really nice. Great short stories. pics of nude cartoons 2001, jakub stefano nude video Rendezvous with Rama.
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Authors: Fritz Leiber, Robert E. Howard (Conan), Hugh Cook, Glen Cook, Steven Brust, Clark Ashton Smith, C. L. Moore, David Gemmel
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Three things I learned while writing the OP:
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3. Although the term "high fantasy" demands an opposite "low fantasy", it doesn't have one. The term exists, but it doesn't have a consistent definition. Which just cements Tolkien's influence on the genre: it's him, and some other traditions.

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Great OP, just thought of two things you should add:

A big fat visible link to the Help Me Identify This Book thread, so this thread isn't flooded with that kind of post.

A link to the Internet Science Fiction Database (isfdb.org) which is the best place for author bibliographies, comprehensive lists of short stories by authors, tables of contents of anthologies, and so on. Invaluable resource. You can also go to the entry for a particular short story and find out every anthology and collection it's available in.

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Wow OP thanks for that amazing picture to the NPR top 100 sci-fi/fantasy books, I have read a ton of books on there already but that picture just opened up 6 more series I need to download and get reading. That was perfect timing too, I just finished the Mistborn trilogy and was in the mood for another series. I am going to start with Iain Banks Culture series or Joe Haldeman The forever War series, any recommendations on what one I should read first?

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Honestly i'd just read The Forever War and skip the sequels, then start on The Player of Games by Banks.

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The Forever War, and stick with the first one.

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I found the sequel to this the other day, 'The Story of the Stone', but haven't read the first one; anyone know if you need to read them in order?

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If we are giving a recommendation, can we post the link to Amazon (or other source)? I'm new here and I want to properly participate. Since this is a new thread, I'm excited to be here. I've gone through hundreds of pages of older threads but here is a fresh opportunity. I've read SF all my life and I have some favorites to suggest and am hoping for new suggestions to add to my library.

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I found the sequel to this the other day, 'The Story of the Stone', but haven't read the first one; anyone know if you need to read them in order?

As far as I recall, you don't need to read them in order, you'll just miss out on some of the character development like why the two main characters are a team. That said, Bridge of Birds is far and away the best of the trilogy and one of the best books I've ever read.

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If we are giving a recommendation, can we post the link to Amazon (or other source)? I'm new here and I want to properly participate. Since this is a new thread, I'm excited to be here. I've gone through hundreds of pages of older threads but here is a fresh opportunity. I've read SF all my life and I have some favorites to suggest and am hoping for new suggestions to add to my library.

So, links - yes or no? Thanks.

Don't post Amazon referral links, nobody is interested in lining your pockets. Otherwise nobody will mind if you post links but we can all use google so it might not be worth the effort.

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So, links - yes or no? Thanks.

If you post links at all, link to wikipedia. It contains all the relevant information (author, links to other books in the series, genre, short description, number of pages, year it was published, tv/film adaptations, awards won, etc) and the reception section (if available) is much more useful than amazon ratings or whatever.

Also, I can't be the only one that organises my list of books by bookmarking their wikipedia pages (and putting those bookmarks in relevant maps). It's certainly a habit I can recommend.

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I loving hate Amazon, and Wikipedia's erratic; I'd recommend the encylopaedias linked in the OP or isfdb.org, as Hedrigall recommended. Or the author's own site. Not really worth the effort though, just mention the title and author.

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Also, I can't be the only one that organises my list of books by bookmarking their wikipedia pages (and putting those bookmarks in relevant maps). It's certainly a habit I can recommend.

I personally don't object to someone posting a direct link to Amazon if it's to link directly to a special or something, I've done it myself with Bridge of Birds when the trilogy was on sale on Kindle, but it has to be a direct link, not a referral link.

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I have Consider Phlebas queue'd up for my next read. Working on Fall of Hyperion now, and really enjoying it.

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I have Consider Phlebas queue'd up for my next read. Working on Fall of Hyperion now, and really enjoying it.

Consider Phlebas is exceptional. Along with Use of Weapons and Excession it's among my favorite Culture books. (My favorite Banks SF book, Feersum Endjinn, isn't a Culture book; it's a standalone but is well worth reading.)

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And as for books that I'm excited about, I just read an astounding short story collection by John Langan called The Wide Carnivorous Sky. Langan uses metafictional tropes that are usually reserved for literary fiction (eg, writing in the second person; constantly breaking the 4th wall; recursive stories within stories; etc) to bring new life to old horror tropes such as zombies, The Exorcist, vampires, Lovecraft homage, etc. He also has very good characterization and attention to detail -- highly recommended if you like horror fiction.

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I have Consider Phlebas queue'd up for my next read. Working on Fall of Hyperion now, and really enjoying it.

Most people (me included) think that Consider Phlebas is not the best first Culture book. I'd go with Player of Games if I were you.

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Can anyone recommend me hard-ish sf with at least halfway decent characterisation? I've found that when I read cheesy space opera with a panoply of interesting characters, the 'science' makes me cringe. Yet the vast majority of hard sf, and even just plain ol' regular sf, has characters who are barely distinguishable from eachother, let alone interesting unto themselves. LE Modesitt JR is the worst example of this I can think of; I am incapable of reading another of his books because I don't want to read two paragraphs about what sort of sweater vest the guy is wearing and what type of meal he ordered.

What's some decent sf where the characters are remotely interesting? Yes I want aliens and strange worlds and space ships and all that poo poo, but why do the people involved have to be two-dimensional silhouettes with a name and gender printed on the front? That isn't to say I haven't read any sf which isn't like this, it's just that the majority seems to be this way and I find it hard to pick something up, regardless of how wonderful the premise is, if the characterisation is non-existent. 90% of the time when I pick up a book that has 'hugo/nebula/whatever winning' written on the front I know there will be at least ten characters you can't tell apart.

When I think about it, the same often applies to fantasy. Often someone will have some sort of curse/destiny/hidden role/secret past and their personality doesn't seem to be at all affected or shaped by it. The wheel of time had about a dozen characters who were only differentiated by their circumstance and the colour of their clothes.

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Can anyone recommend me hard-ish sf with at least halfway decent characterisation? I've found that when I read cheesy space opera with a panoply of interesting characters, the 'science' makes me cringe. Yet the vast majority of hard sf, and even just plain ol' regular sf, has characters who are barely distinguishable from eachother, let alone interesting unto themselves. LE Modesitt JR is the worst example of this I can think of; I am incapable of reading another of his books because I don't want to read two paragraphs about what sort of sweater vest the guy is wearing and what type of meal he ordered.

I feel like those two terms are in complete opposition. It always seems like hard sci-fi focuses on systems, and space opera focuses on characters.

Anyway, you should (if you haven't already) try Ian M. Banks's novels. The characters are deep, and the science isn't retarded.

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Which is neatly counterbalanced by how he makes Mars itself, its landscape, microbiology, and mythology a central character in the series. I particularly admire how he uses landscape in the series. It's most prominent in the mountaineering section in... Green Mars (I think) about the tour guide; there's a story about climbing Mons Olympus in the short story collection. It's terrific. If landscape can be a character.

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Can anyone recommend me hard-ish sf with at least halfway decent characterisation?

I highly recommend Peter Watts for this. He's a marine biologist by training, so his work has a lot of really fascinating hard-sf extrapolation in it (in fact, he's the only hard sf author I can think of who tends to mom son sex picture compress his ideas to the point that I wish one of his books was actually expanded to two or three books), but his books are also firmly rooted in character; in fact the characters are central to his books rather than ancillary ornaments as tends to be the case in most hard sf. As for starting points into his work I would recommend either Starfish (the beginning of his deliciously grim Rifters trilogy) or Blindsight. His books are available for free on his website danielle christine fishel naked, along with various pieces of short fiction that are also well worth reading.

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So I am looking for recommendations on basically any fantasy that is either a single book or so self-contained that I could read the first book in a series without needing to immediately go into the next part. I tend to try to mix up genres and move from fiction to non-fiction so I don't want to get caught up in a series, especially one that is extremely long. I recently read the Colour of Magic since it was on a Kindle Daily Deal and, just as I feared, it ended on a total cliff-hanger with no resolution (although I have heard that the second book does wrap up this particular story). I would prefer swords & sorcery - either high or low - since I don't get enough of that in my reading diet, but I am fairly open in my reading tastes and can find enjoyment in anything. I have followed the flow-chart above and it seems like free porn drunk girls Stardust by Neil Gaiman is one of the few that matched my criteria. I am pretty set on sci-fi, so don't need any recommendations there. Some fantasy I have read and enjoyed:

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So I am looking for recommendations on basically any fantasy that is either a single book or so self-contained that I could read the first book in a series without needing to immediately go into the next part. I tend to try to mix up genres and move from fiction to non-fiction so I don't want to get caught up in a series, especially one that is extremely long. I recently read the Colour of Magic since it was on a Kindle Daily Deal and, just as I feared, it ended on a total cliff-hanger with no resolution (although I have heard that the second book does wrap up this particular story).

Congratulations, you read the one Discworld two-parter. Every other Discworld book can be read by itself, though there are some you want to read in a set order.

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So I am looking for recommendations on basically any fantasy that is either a single book or so self-contained that I could read the first book in a series without needing to immediately go into the next part. I tend to try to mix up genres and move from fiction to non-fiction so I don't want to get caught up in a series, especially one that is extremely long. I recently read the Colour of Magic since it was on a Kindle Daily Deal and, just as I feared, it ended on a total cliff-hanger with no resolution (although I have heard that the second book does wrap up this particular story). I would prefer swords & sorcery - either high or low - since I don't get enough of that in my reading diet, but I am fairly open in my reading tastes and can find enjoyment in anything. I have followed the flow-chart above and it seems like drunk sex party pics Stardust by Neil Gaiman is one of the few that matched my criteria. I am pretty set on sci-fi, so don't need any recommendations there. Some fantasy I have read and enjoyed:

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Single books: lois griffin drawn sex The Princess Bride, free sex video thumbnail A Bridge of Birds, nadine jansen free porn Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norell, love hina hentai sex American Gods, watching people have sex Gentlemen of the Road by Michael Chabon, fat man fucking teen The Once and Future King. I also really enjoyed Kelly Link's short story collections, they are kind of modern feminist fairy tale/fantasy.

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Take a look at ellen page lesbian snl Monument by Ian Graham. It's pretty dark, but succeeds in telling a self-contained story in a single book. It isn't well-known, but the author tells a story that most other authors would stretch to a trilogy and does so without feeling like it was compressed.

nude in the reader Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch stands on its own, but is the start of a series, so it doesn't wrap absolutely everything up, but all the major conflict is resolved. It tells a good story, despite having inconsistent tone between the first and second halves. As good as you'll find in a modern standalone fantasy novel.

teen showing her pussy A Wizard of Earthsea by Ursula K. LeGuin is also the first book in a series but is both a very quick read and good on it's own. I don't normally gush about someone's writing style, but her lyrical prose is an absolute treasure to read and meshes perfectly with the story being told.

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After listening to the sex club aaron from 1989 in which he narrates a kind of sci-fi of the present, I think I have a writerly crush on JG Ballard. Those that have read him - where should I start?

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A few of us were discussing it in the last thread so I decided to bring it back up. And as of now I am almost done with the second book . I'll hopefully be able to finish the series this week and write up a better review of it.

e: In my opinion, it's far more enjoyable space opera than The Lost Fleet & The Expanse (Leviathan Wakes). I still enjoyed both of those series, but this is series is far more invested in world building, galactic politics & war, etc. than The Lost Fleet & The Expanse.

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I presume this book is "fantasy" and I thought characters were well developed and the book is a stand-alone. I wrote the author to ask if this was going to be a series and he gave me a definte maybe :-).

The book is Prophet Of The Ghost Ants by Clark T. Carlton.

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Just as our current society has domesticated animals to sustain ourselves, the human societies of this future have yoked insects to their service. Food, weapons, clothing, art - even the most sacred religious beliefs - are derived from Humankind's profound intertwining with the once-lowly insect world . . . Corrupt elites ruthlessly enforce a rigid caste system over a debased and ignorant populace. Duplicitous clergymen and power-mongering Royalty wage pointless wars for their own glory. Fantasies of a better life, a better world, serve only to torment those who dare to dream. One so cursed is a half-breed slave named Anand, a dung-collector of the midden caste who, against all possibility, rises above hopelessness to lead his people against a genocidal army of men who fight atop fearsome, translucent Ghost Ants.

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Empire of the Sun and The Kindness of Women, but they're not SF. Try The Drowned World.

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One of my favorite authors is Neal Asher who write very far future, very high tech tales set in his partly utopian/partly dystopian future in which AIs pretty much run everything.

The best way to read Asher's books aee in their chronology order rather than their publication dates.

Prador Moon - not his best book but gives you the Polity setting and introduces the Prador, a lobster-like race wit bad tempers.
The Shadow Of The Scorpion - met young Ian Cormac who will later become a cop for the Polity.
Gridlinked - Now Ian Cormac is an adult and he's dealing with the "Seperatists" who aren't very nice.
The Line Of Polity - Ian Cormac book 2.
Brass Man - More Iam Cormac and Mr. Crane, a good AI gone bad
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The Technician - A couple of thousand years after Cormac this Polity stand-alone has all sorts of crazy monsters and more character development than usual.
The Skinner - a couple of thousand years later, we go to the planet Spatterjay which is very, very different from any other planet I've been to. This is my favorite Asher book and is still set in the Polity Universe.
The Voyage Of The Sable Keech - Spatterjay book 2 featuring dead but determined "policeman" Sable Keech
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I've only read the Ian Cormac books but I blew threw them in two weeks and really enjoyed them. He has some great ideas when it comes to AIs, Androids and other sci-fi concepts, the universe he builds is a testament to that.

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I've only read the Ian Cormac books but I blew threw them in two weeks and really enjoyed them. He has some great ideas when it comes to AIs, Androids and other sci-fi concepts, the universe he builds is a testament to that.

You've missed his (IMHO) best ones - The Technician and the Spatterjay ones. I've read The Skinner twice and by audio once and I only re-read my absolute favorites. Nice to see another Asher fan.

I'll also suggest Gary Gibson and Richard K. Morgan (Altered Carbon and Steel Remains - the other Morgan's not so much). This one, if it ever comes out on Kindle large labia pussy lips would also fit your tastes.

I tried to read Ian Banks but for whatever reason I just couldn't get into it although I feel like I should have.

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