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I think the two Endymion books are okay and people who finish Fall of Hyperion still really liking the world shouldn't feel they must be avoided at all costs, just dial your expectations down. Endymion catches a lot of abuse because Hyperion was so fantastic that the dropoff from great to good (Fall of Hyperion) and then to okay (Endymion books) makes them much more disappointing. But I wouldn't call them bad. If anyone is confused, Dan Simmons has helpfully provided a great example of a truly horrible book by writing Olympos, completely ruining the otherwise quite good Ilium by association.

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The Silver Spike, from the Black Company Chronicles, starts with the main character, Tully, being interrupted from what is strongly hinted to be sex with two underage girls (sisters also) by his cousin Smeds. Neither of these characters were in previous books. Neither of them is in or related to the Black Company. They gather up two more random peasants to go treasure hunting 100 top sex positions At the Dominator's burial site. They manage to outwit a powerful immortal guardian by throwing sticks at it, inadvertently unleashing a terrible evil. That right there tells you all you need to know about this book but I'll keep going.

The evil ends up possessing/reincarnating/whatever big brother 10 naked The Limper, who is as uninteresting and one dimensional a villian in his third/fourth/whatever reappearance as he was every other time. He's also a giant wicker man now, who rampages numerous towns. He's obviously afraid and vulnerable to fire but no one figures that out for a while. The Black Company the naked mile free (those who didn't go south) join forces with old enemies to defeat him, or do they? Yep, he comes back and there is a big showdown at some city. Also the Black Company suffers from reverse stormtrooper effect; live nude girls trailer Silent, the White Rose, and everyone's favorite angsty Raven act incredibly out of character, weak, and stupid. They're outwitted/overpowered several times by Smeds et all for example.

In the end they manage to stuff the bad guy into a magic pot (seriously) but still have trouble containing it. asian teen riding cock Silent decides the best way to handle this is to jump on it from a ledge and he is burned to death. shemale fucking shemale porn Raven thinks if he can recover the artifact that started all this trouble he will win the soup green porno Darling's love. Instead it possesses him, as expected, and they are forced to kill him. Loveable Smeds goes home with plenty of gold, to live happily ever after, despite the fact that is indirectly responsible for hundreds if not thousands of deaths and directly, hands-on responsible for maybe a dozen more.

I'm sure I forgot quite a bit or made some mistakes but its been 2 or 3 months since I read this and I have no desire to go back and reread it. Like I said in my previous post, read the Black Company, its a great book that is different from a lot of other fantasy. You might even enjoy the 2nd and 3rd books in the series (I didn't). There's a slight chance you'll enjoy some of them beyond that (they have their moments). But the Silver Spike is one of the worst books I've ever read and can be skipped.

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Lately I've been wondering wether the young naked lesbian girls Braided Path trilogy (by Chris Wooding) is actually good or if I simply think so becaus it was one of the very first fantasy series I read back when I was 15 and knew little about books. Is there anyone else who read them? What I remember of the plot makes me assume it was actually pretty good, but I've never seen it mentioned here before so who knows.

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That's interesting, as in "interesting times". Someone with a backlist the size of that, who can't sell a book that looks rather easy to sell. I'm not quite sure what to make of it, but it's interesting the target is so low - he's figuring a print run of 200 copies. It's nice that the reward tiers are named after aspects of the novel, too.

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There's also a new Garret, P.I. Book coming out tomorrow. The last one, Gilded Latten Bones ended up being a pretty dramatic departure from the fairly repetitive priors, with Garret pretty much sitting around (with odd and excessive chamber pot usage) while getting a cast of pretty much every minor character mentioned ever to solve the mystery. It felt very much like a send off, so I'm curious as to what Cook is going to do with the series now. I don't have high expectations, but I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised.

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In line with simmons chat, i just re-read ilium (not really sure why, it's not that great) and realized I missed an eyerollingly bad callback to hyperion the first time I read it. The moravec society is kind of cool, but that's about as far as it goes. The post-literate human society on earth is so clearly a retread of the eloi from the time machine that I was wondering if he even realized he was doing it until the point where he has a character explain to another that precise reference.

Simmons just isn't that strong a writer and hyperion was definitely his high point.

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I'm looking for something that I guess would best be described as cyberpunky, which I know was discussed a little in the last page, though I have some caveats/additions.

Basically, my job is incredibly reactionary so I have time to read occasionally. I'm looking for something light-ish, by which I mean anything short of the hyper-dense, philosophical tomes that some people put out. They're fine, but I don't want to have to reread the last handful of pages when I have to read in short bursts. It doesn't need to be some piece of OH MY GOD NONSTOP ACTION novel, but a little escapist.

I say I'm looking for cyberpunk because I tend to have a fondness for the noir vibe and I have a preference for near-to-mid-future stuff that's based on Earth, or at least not extremely space opera stuff. One way that I'd describe what I'm looking for is urban fantasy with tech instead of magic. Also, I like transhumanism/cyborgs/genetic engineering stuff, some AI stuff, etc. Not a big fan of aliens and spaceships.

I just finished reading the Petrovitch Trilogy by Simon Morden and it fit what I'm looking for really well. I read Altered Carbon and liked it and have read the notable stuff from the '80s and '90s as far as original cyberpunk stuff goes. Again, I'm reticent to strictly say cyberpunk so much as cyberpunk influenced, perhaps.

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I'm looking for something that I guess would best be described as cyberpunky, which I know was discussed a little in the last page, though I have some caveats/additions.

Basically, my job is incredibly reactionary so I have time to read occasionally. I'm looking for something light-ish, by which I mean anything short of the hyper-dense, philosophical tomes that some people put out. They're fine, but I don't want to have to reread the last handful of pages when I have to read in short bursts. It doesn't need to be some piece of OH MY GOD NONSTOP ACTION novel, but a little escapist.

I say I'm looking for cyberpunk because I tend to have a fondness for the noir vibe and I have a preference for near-to-mid-future stuff that's based on Earth, or at least not extremely space opera stuff. One way that I'd describe what I'm looking for is urban fantasy with tech instead of magic. Also, I like transhumanism/cyborgs/genetic engineering stuff, some AI stuff, etc. Not a big fan of aliens and spaceships.

I just finished reading the Petrovitch Trilogy by Simon Morden and it fit what I'm looking for really well. I read Altered Carbon and liked it and have read the notable stuff from the '80s and '90s as far as original cyberpunk stuff goes. Again, I'm reticent to strictly say cyberpunk so much as cyberpunk influenced, perhaps.

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Basically, my job is incredibly reactionary so I have time to read occasionally. I'm looking for something light-ish, by which I mean anything short of the hyper-dense, philosophical tomes that some people put out. They're fine, but I don't want to have to reread the last handful of pages when I have to read in short bursts. It doesn't need to be some piece of OH MY GOD NONSTOP ACTION novel, but a little escapist.

I say I'm looking for cyberpunk because I tend to have a fondness for the noir vibe and I have a preference for near-to-mid-future stuff that's based on Earth, or at least not extremely space opera stuff. One way that I'd describe what I'm looking for is urban fantasy with tech instead of magic. Also, I like transhumanism/cyborgs/genetic engineering stuff, some AI stuff, etc. Not a big fan of aliens and spaceships.

I just finished reading the Petrovitch Trilogy by Simon Morden and it fit what I'm looking for really well. I read Altered Carbon and liked it and have read the notable stuff from the '80s and '90s as far as original cyberpunk stuff goes. Again, I'm reticent to strictly say cyberpunk so much as cyberpunk influenced, perhaps.

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I found the first book really astoundingly well-done on the whole, and really enjoyed it a lot. That said, the sequel was much, much worse, almost to the point of going back and wrecking the first book. I am not optimistic about further books in the series, based on the direction the second book was going. I'd suggest reading the first book and stopping there.

So, I actually started out thinking that - something like 'oh gently caress he's gone and made it mundane', but I keep going back to the point about the fallible narrator. I'm hoping that the next book can bring it back and will give it a shot whenever he gets around to publishing it. I also find the world itself intriguing so would probably put up with some stupid fluff now that I'm invested.

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Yeah the living amongst the ninjas and getting super honored and also getting laid all the time was pretty painful. And was the basis of a large portion of the book. Another thing that was disappointing, besides lack of pirate adventures, was lack of progress in the plot, again in favor of increased sex elves and sex ninjas. It was pretty apparent that Rothfuss was putting titilating things in there and trying to live through his main character, which is shameful.

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I just finished house of Suns. I think it's by far the best of Reynolds' novels. It's a bit softer than the revelation space series, which is okay. My one complaint is that purslane and campion often sound like the same person, although given that they are clones I guess that's intentional. Anyway it can get a bit unclear when the viewpoint changes from one to the other.

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Galactic North by Alastair Reynolds is his Rev Space shorts collected, but they work better once you've read at least the first novel. The universe told in the stories is creepy and gothic, one of the best examples of dark sf.

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I'm almost done reading The Void Trilogy by Hamilton which is part of the Commonwealth Saga. I actually really enjoyed it despite the weird sex stuff here and there. I really enjoyed the epic feel and scope of the story(Well, 2 main stories, Pandora's Star, then the Void) that had plenty of characters that, to me anyway, I found pretty interesting. I'm not sure if I can come up with any other reason I liked it, other than it had a grand story with a decent bit of mystery along with plenty of interesting characters. The reason I said so, is I'm trying to figure out what to start next, and I have trouble picking out sci-fi as I'm a bit picky for some reason. I also actually prefer multiple books, the longer the series the better, assuming length doesn't ruin it. I suppose you could say I really enjoy investing myself in a good series. Also, I generally like when there's interesting technology and such, even if it's a bit silly. Doesn't have to be straight up hard sci-fi.

I actually already have all the Vorkosigen books and the series Altered Carbon is based on. I know Vorkosigen is highly recommended and from what I can tell it has a little of everything. I'd normally say spaceship battles and such is a requirement, but really I think it's just conflict in general I enjoy. Commonwealth had a decent bit of it, but it could still stretch in places without any space battles and it held my interest pretty well. I know Altered Carbon is a sort of detective novel, and people compare it to Expanse, which I generally liked pretty well. I intend to eventually read both of these, but which should I start first? Also, when it comes to Vorkosigen, should I start with the first Miles book, or begin with the ones about his mom or whatever it is?

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So far Mike is such an interesting and alien observer that I'm pleased by the amount of insight Heinlein has into his point of view. The other characters all have their own interesting quirks, and feel human to different degrees, even if Heinlein suffers from the same problem as so many other sci-fi writers when it comes to constructing his female characters. They are all beautiful caregivers, idealized versions of 'womanhood.' Heinlein overcomes this particular flaw by at least giving his female characters agency, though it all seems to be tied into the masculine realm. Overall, it's far less objectionable for its gender politics than other entries in the genre. I'm looking forward to finishing it soon.

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After finishing Jim Butcher's latest Dresden Files book (Cold Days) last December, I got a hankering for some more urban fantasy, so over the last six months I've read:

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- The first (and now only, it seems) three books of the Twenty Palaces series by Harry Connolly; pretty dark and depressing, but an interesting read. Shame the publisher dropped it.

- The first three Rivers of London books by Ben Aaronovitch; fun and very British.

- The first five Iron Druid Chronicles by Kevin Hearne; Rather derivative (kind of like a Dresden-Light), but entertaining.

- The five Felix Castor books by Mike Carey; very, very good. Probably my favorite of all the series here.

- The three Alex Verus books by Benedict Jacka; also good stuff.

- The seven Mercy Thompson books by Patricia Briggs; pretty good.

- The seven Greywalker books by Kat Richardson; the first book or two were a little shaky, but the series got pretty good after that.

- The four Monster Hunter International books by Larry Correia. Unapologetic cheesy and terrible pulp, but somehow they were still fun.

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And right now in my queue to be read I've got:

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- The Sandman Slim books by Richard Kadrey; I've heard good things about these, but present-tense writing annoys me. Hopefully they're worth it.

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It's called the Grimnoir Chronicles. The first book is Hard Magic.

There's also a newer series (think the 3rd book is coming out this month?) about a world where elves and gnomes and goblins and vamps and whatnot all exist (in public), and there's a special police force that handles the cases. Basically, if a vamp bites a non willing person, they catch em and put em in jail. If a person kills a vampire, they catch the rear end in a top hat who killed em and put em in jail. It's an interesting twist on the whole OH GOD WE CAN'T LET THE PUBLIC KNOW BLAH BLAH crap.

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I just got done reading The City and the City by Mieville, and it's pretty good. It's more of a noirish crime novel, less pulpy than Butcher and also less magical. If either of those dissuade you, you should try it out anyway! It's real fun trying to understand the relationship between the cities.

Something I've wondered about the City and the City. The idea has been done before by Jack Vance. Two cities co-existed in the same spot. Those wearing one colour could not see those of the other colour, and were shocked by the revelation when some of their number were disrobed. Mieville was aware of this story, surely? He may have commented on it, I don't like his work that much so I don't follow his interviews. I found the book kind of boring.

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Those won't last me very long, though. So, while I'm waiting for a bunch of these folks to finish their next installments, what else is good in the urban fantasy world (that isn't a thinly disguised romance or some teenager sparkly vampire bullshit)?

You got most of them, really. Here's a few more:

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A few more off-beat suggestions that aren't strictly UF:

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Correia also has a series out that's sorta... urban fantasy noirish set in the 1920s. It's a 3 book series, and fairly good.

It's called the Grimnoir Chronicles. The first book is Hard Magic.


I've got to 2nd this series, I felt these were slightly better then the Monster Hunter International series he wrote. His magic system reminded me of one of Brandon Sanderson's magic systems. He sets the rules down then comes up with ways to combine different elements of the magic system to do really interesting things.

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Mar 14, 2007

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It also has one of my favorite lines in a book.

"The learned gentlemen from the university have asked me if I relied on Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity or if I used the simpler rules of Newton’s Law of Universal Gravitation on the evening in question when I accidentally took Sheriff Johnson’s life . poo poo. I don’t know. I just got angry and squished the fucker. But I've gotten better at running things and I promise not to do it no more."

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Something I've wondered about the City and the City. The idea has been done before by Jack Vance. Two cities co-existed in the same spot. Those wearing one colour could not see those of the other colour, and were shocked by the revelation when some of their number were disrobed. Mieville was aware of this story, surely? He may have commented on it, I don't like his work that much so I don't follow his interviews. I found the book kind of boring.

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I should say, also, that with the whole idea of a divided city there are analogies in the real world, as well as precursors within fantastic fiction. C. J. Cherryh wrote a book that had a divided city like that, in some ways, as did Jack Vance. Now I didn’t know this at the time, but I’m also not getting my knickers in a twist about it. If you think what you’re trying to do is come up with a really original idea—one that absolutely no one has ever had before—you’re just kidding yourself.

I liked The City and the City a lot, I especially enjoyed it as sci-fi/fantasy where nothing actually supernatural was going on at all, it was just the bizarre customs of these two cities. I thought it blended the police drama pretty well with the setting exploration, and managed to make it intriguing well emphasizing how mundane it was to the characters at the same time.

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Apr 17, 2003


For people that have read Takeshi Kovacs, is the second book a bit of a letdown?

I'm about 85% finished or something, and some big bad thing is about to be perpetrated, but, I don't even really care all that much at this point.

I feel like the decision to center so much of the book on sex and city complete the mysterious Martian's was a mistake. The flavors of Earth and posthumanism and whatnot were the real draw in the first novel. Having so much hinging on spot bleeding after sex the incredibly incomprehensible machines of Martians, and their singing not-rocks-not-plants and whatnot blah blah blah. It just seems so whatever. Maybe the book will bring it all together in the end, or in the third installment, but this is definitely a drop off after the awesome first book.

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Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.

It's not as good as Altered Carbon, no. The books are fairly episodic and self-contained; there's no real through plot.

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He mentions it briefly in this interview: teen latina pussy videos


I liked The City and the City a lot, I especially enjoyed it as sci-fi/fantasy where nothing actually supernatural was going on at all, it was just the bizarre customs of these two cities. I thought it blended the police drama pretty well with the setting exploration, and managed to make it intriguing well emphasizing how mundane it was to the characters at the same time.

To be fair, "Jack Vance already did it" must be a pretty common stumbling block in science fiction and fantasy.

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To be fair, "Jack Vance already did it" must be a pretty common stumbling block in science fiction and fantasy.

Jack Vance loving owns and everyone needs to read Tales of the Dying Earth.

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