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bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

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If that's true I don't really see any reason to like Vertigo anymore. That news really depresses me.

How is that shocking? DC owns John Constantine, Swamp Thing, The Endless, and basically every other character. It also could be a case where the written under contract and therefore everything he did would be owned by DC.

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How is that shocking? DC owns John Constantine, Swamp Thing, The Endless, and basically every other character. It also could be a case where the written under contract and therefore everything he did would be owned by DC.

Well, technically those are bad examples because they were created pre-Vertigo. I think the contracts are a bit different, but ultimately I think the rights still fall to DC.

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Are these tying in to the MCU or are they stand alone?

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Please no. Doop is already dangerously close to becoming as overexposed as Wolverine was in the 90s and Deadpool in the 00s, despite Jason Aaron's best intentions.

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Please no. Doop is already dangerously close to becoming as overexposed as Wolverine was in the 90s and Deadpool in the 00s, despite Jason Aaron's best intentions.

How so? He is in one book and he basically just cameos in that.

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Please no. Doop is already dangerously close to becoming as overexposed as Wolverine was in the 90s and Deadpool in the 00s, despite Jason Aaron's best intentions.

Doop hasn't been a major character in a comic glory hole sex video for nearly a decade now.

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X-Statix is one of those books that works only as a comic. I'd never want to see someone try and adapt it.

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Are these tying in to the MCU or are they stand alone?

I would hope that they stand alone and just don't contradict the films so people don't have to worry about things. Trying to do Alias in the style of the films or Agents of SHIELD would be awful.

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They don't have to do it in the same style, just because it all takes place in the same universe.

Asides from the occasional crossover, the different Marvel storylines rarely interfere with each other, simply because they take place on such different levels. That goes even double for the MCU. Cap is a government agent, same goes for Shield, Thor mostly handles problems in the nine worlds and Tony Stark fights international arms dealers, so none of them really operates on a street level.

If you have a world were superpowers become much more common as time goes on, like the MCU, then eventually they will bleed into street crime, simply because they have become an every day occurrence. That also explain why Shield or the Avengers don't take care of them, because the level for their intervention raises over time.

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Nope unless its a special case then DC owns the characters.
This is to big of a generalization, but no, not all Vertigo titles are and were produced under strict work-for-hire contracts.

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Considering the events of AoS have seemingly little to nothing to do with what we are going to see in the next phase of films, I would say that is pretty indicative of how little a show set in the MCU can be involved in its trappings.

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Apr 2, 2007

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So I know nothing about Iron Fist. Is it weird that I want him to be Asian? I just know he has magic martial art powers and I would like more Asian leads in tv shows.

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It could work. Like, there's no reason for him not to be Asian American.

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So I know nothing about Iron Fist. Is it weird that I want him to be Asian? I just know he has magic martial art powers and I would like more Asian leads in tv shows.

It's not integral to Danny Rand's character to be a white guy who became heir to an asian culture's super secret martial art, but I don't think we need more "asian=kung fu" stereotypes in popular culture.

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It would be great if someone did something with the idea that Rand grew up as a minority and didn't come to America until he was pretty old. Maybe that was played up in the original Power Man and Iron Fist, but it was fairly absent from Fraction's work.

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It's not integral to Danny Rand's character to be a white guy who became heir to an asian culture's super secret martial art, but I don't think we need more "asian=kung fu" stereotypes in popular culture.

I know that's not ideal but on the other hand there are really really few Asian male leads.

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So who's the current fan dream casting wish for Kingpin? Chiklis?

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So who's the current fan dream casting wish for Kingpin? Chiklis?

Off the top of my head I'd say Paul Sorvino, but Chiklis is not a bad choice.

I wonder if they'll go with a white guy or not though. A lot of people are only going to know Michael Clarke Duncan in the role

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It's not integral to Danny Rand's character to be a white guy who became heir to an asian culture's super secret martial art, but I don't think we need more "asian=kung fu" stereotypes in popular culture.
Yeah that's true, but we also don't need more white guy leads either, martial arts masters or not.

So hey they can make him black.

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I know that's not ideal but on the other hand there are really really few Asian male leads.

I would be surprised if Shang-Chi doesn't have a major role in at least one of the Netflix series.

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Actually I think Danny being a rich white dude raised in kung-fu paradise who's best friend Luke is a poor black guy out of Harlem who got his powers from a prison experiment actually is an important part of both characters. That's a big experience gulf to overcome to be casual friends much less friends who would lay down their lives for each other, the fact that they overcame that gulf says a lot about both of them.

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The problem with Dean Norris and Chiklis is that they're both 5' 7''.

It would be like casting 6' 1" John Rhys-Davies as a dwarf.

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It's just a shame that he's a giant so will be dead by the time the TV shows are being made.

He's only got 5 more years until he's as old as Andre the Giant was when he died.

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Peter Dinklage for Kingpin. Seriously, just cast him and never address it.

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