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Would it be asking too much to get Luke Cage/Iron Fist similar in tone to Black Dynamite?

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Would it be asking too much to get Luke Cage/Iron Fist similar in tone to Black Dynamite?

I suggested that in CD once and I was told I was being racist. Thing is, heroes for hire comes out of the Blacksploitation and Kung Fu crazes of the 70s.

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I suggested that in CD once and I was told I was being racist. Thing is, heroes for hire comes out of the Blacksploitation and Kung Fu crazes of the 70s.

Michael Jae White is pretty much Luke Cage already when you think about it.

I wanted a Terry Crews/ Jason Statham Cage/ Fist movie. Set in the 70's.

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I don't see why we can't have them all in the 70s - the Luke Cage series being blaxploitation, the Iron Fist series be a Shaw Brothers homage, the Daredevil series be akin to Carnahan's Death Wish-esque take, and Jessica Jones being, uh, Rockford Files? Dirty Harry? I'm not very familiar.

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I don't see why we can't have them all in the 70s - the Luke Cage series being blaxploitation, the Iron Fist series be a Shaw Brothers homage, the Daredevil series be akin to Carnahan's Death Wish-esque take, and Jessica Jones being, uh, Rockford Files? Dirty Harry? I'm not very familiar.

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I don't see why we can't have them all in the 70s - the Luke Cage series being blaxploitation, the Iron Fist series be a Shaw Brothers homage, the Daredevil series be akin to Carnahan's Death Wish-esque take, and Jessica Jones being, uh, Rockford Files? Dirty Harry? I'm not very familiar.

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I suggested that in CD once and I was told I was being racist. Thing is, heroes for hire comes out of the Blacksploitation and Kung Fu crazes of the 70s.

Yeah but as much as I love early Power Man, Marvel got away with that poo poo because it was the 70s. Anyone doing that kind of thing today would basically be committing suicide.

Black Dynamite worked because it was a comedy directed by a black man. Without that strong satirical element and a black project lead (who doesn't have to answer to a white guy in a suit), all a kung fu blaxploitation show would communicate is that you think 1970s views on race relations are really cool and you wish you could go back to that.

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Yeah but as much as I love early Power Man, Marvel got away with that poo poo because it was the 70s. Anyone doing that kind of thing today would basically be committing suicide.

Black Dynamite worked because it was a comedy directed by a black man. Without that strong satirical element and a black project lead (who doesn't have to answer to a white guy in a suit), all a kung fu blaxploitation show would communicate is that you think 1970s views on race relations are really cool and you wish you could go back to that.

I'm glad I own Black Dynamite because I'm intersted if it'll hold up in 20 years. Have any of you tried to watch I'm Gonna Get You Sucka lately? It's horrible, outside of specific scenes that I may be viewing through nostalgia vision.

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What if they went the opposite direction with Kingpin and made her a woman. Melissa McCarthy.

I actually think McCarthy could probably work in a bruiser type role, but at the very least her current screen persona's too coarse for the Kingpin, and I doubt Marvel Studios or Netflix are going to be casting too far out of anyone's comfort zone at this stage.

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In that case I'd say Woody Harrelson. He can be an intimidating dude, has a fat head already, and could probably bulk up pretty huge.

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Harrelson would be better as Hammerhead I think. I actually like the idea of Melissa McCarthy as Kingpin. Comedians tend to play good villains. (Comedy option: Dan Fogel or Seth Rogan...though Rogan would actually probably do a good job come to think of it.)

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I'm glad people took my suggestion at face value and didn't think I was just making a fat joke. A woman kingpin would rock, and McCarthy has a ton of untapped potential in dramatic roles.

Really though I'm sure they'll knock casting out of the park whichever direction they go in. I assume it will just be a big white guy which will also be just fine.

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I think Dean Norris is a pretty safe bet, he's super high profile right now with Breaking Bad ending, but not high profile enough to be really expensive. He's a bit short but he has the look down otherwise

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I think Dean Norris is a pretty safe bet, he's super high profile right now with Breaking Bad ending, but not high profile enough to be really expensive. He's a bit short but he has the look down otherwise

I loved Norris on Breaking Bad, but after seeing him on Under the Dome, I'm second guessing his talent as an actor. I think he may only have been as good as he was on Breaking Bad because of the other actors around him... He's pretty horrible on Under the Dome. In fact, he may be the worst actor on that show (and he's got some competition there). Though, I admit I've never seen him in anything else except that Hank Schrader Funny or Die or Colluge Humor skit (I forget which it was, and it was not funny).

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Huh, I saw him on Under the Dome when channel surfing a couple weeks ago, and he seemed to be a class above the kid playing... his son? I think? It was embarrassing, this poor young guy trying to emote when he looks like the most he's been asked to do before is smoulder for a catalogue picture, and Norris running rings around him. It was like seeing two different shows cut together.

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Huh, I saw him on Under the Dome when channel surfing a couple weeks ago, and he seemed to be a class above the kid playing... his son? I think? It was embarrassing, this poor young guy trying to emote when he looks like the most he's been asked to do before is smoulder for a catalogue picture, and Norris running rings around him. It was like seeing two different shows cut together.

Not to derail, but that kid actually ended up playing one of the creepiest characters on TV in recent memory. That whole show has problems and is generally really bad, but I was really disappointed with Norris especially. Probably because I held him in such high regard from BB.

Either way, Norris isn't a terrible choice for Kingpin, especially physically. I'm just uneasy of him overall.

Marvel has had a lot of luck with relative unknowns (I had never heard of Hiddleston, Atwell, Sebastian Stan) as well as reviving otherwise dead careers (RDJ, Mickey Rourke).

Since Gandolfini's dead, I hope they go with an unknown. But that's just me. Kingpin was never one of my favorites in the comics, in fact I've never really liked the character.

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I'm glad people took my suggestion at face value and didn't think I was just making a fat joke. A woman kingpin would rock, and McCarthy has a ton of untapped potential in dramatic roles.

Is Melissa McCarthy the one that played alongside Bullock in The Heat? Because, yeah, if she could do serious (I haven't seen her in anything but that and Identity Theft) I can definitely see her as Kingpin.

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I'm glad I own Black Dynamite because I'm intersted if it'll hold up in 20 years. Have any of you tried to watch I'm Gonna Get You Sucka lately? It's horrible, outside of specific scenes that I may be viewing through nostalgia vision.

The dude with the goldfish in his shoes never fails. But yea, the rest of it feels way to 1992.

It's funny, I always associate Kingpin with Spiderman, mostly because the first place I ever saw him was in a Spiderman comic.

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The dude with the goldfish in his shoes never fails. But yea, the rest of it feels way to 1992.

It's funny, I always associate Kingpin with Spiderman, mostly because the first place I ever saw him was in a Spiderman comic.

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Oh hell Daredevil stole Mysterio too didn't he?

Mysterio has been in a total of...what, 7 or 8 issues of Daredevil total? And since then, he's been in several dozen Spider-Man issues. He's still very much a Spider-Man villain.

Hammerhead and Silvermane, while initially introduced in Spider-Man, aren't really Spider-Man specific villains and are just guys you use when you need a mob story. Hell, they aren't really Daredevil villains either.

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If Drew Goddard writes it then it will probably end up just being a straight adaptation of Born Again. I remember him doing an interview with someone last year where he was talking about having the posters for that on his wall and quoting several lines from it.

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If Drew Goddard writes it then it will probably end up just being a straight adaptation of Born Again. I remember him doing an interview with someone last year where he was talking about having the posters for that on his wall and quoting several lines from it.

I really hope they don't. Born Again is probably my favourite comic but it'd make a terrible tv show. 80% of it would be Matt muttering craziness to himself and it would really lose the impact of the story of destroying Matts life when nobody cares about it yet. The only good thing would be it wouldn't go for the "Elektra dies" storyline again.

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Ideally you'd set up DD for the whole first season then do the fall and rise again in the second season, but who knows if there will even be a second season of heidi klum naked pic Daredevil after long hair pulling sex The Defenders and anyway the whole "Matt Murdock against the World" thing doesn't work as well if he's got teammates to help bail him out. So if you're going to do it, I guess you've got to do it in one go and the best way to do that, it seems to me, would be to do it over a season with the first half being general DD stuff (including loving over the Kingpin a couple of times to build up the hate) then it all crashes down around episode 7 or 8 then concludes with Matt's redemption by the end of the season.

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