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Amalgam had 2 or 4 trades, but they may be pricey and difficult to get ahold of

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I know they've been collected in individual trades but I don't know if there's one big Warzones trade

If all the side stories are collected in trades that's good enough for me. Just have to hunt them down. Although, now thinking about it, digital might be the best way to go with those.

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The Order runs six issues, and it’s a sequel/ending storyline to a twelve issue Defenders series done right before that by Kurt Busiek and Erik Larsen. Issue 1 of that Defenders series is when the villain curses them, which is basically just an excuse to get the original team to go on the kind of adventures they did in the early Seventies. If you’re looking for stupid fun you might want to check it out.

Stupid fun comics are my favorites anymore. I'll see if I can find the rest of those. This store had a bunch of poorly organized floppies in long boxes and these were specifically from one collector, so he might have the Defenders leading up to that. Thanks.

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Amalgam had 2 or 4 trades, but they may be pricey and difficult to get ahold of

A set of all 4 was upwards of $200 last spring when I was searching for them for a customer.

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Batman 440-442. New Titans 60-61.

What you want is in Batman #440, page 8?




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Does Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew) still have that thing where she emits pheromones that attract men and repel women? Or has she got it under control or has she lost it?

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Does Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew) still have that thing where she emits pheromones that attract men and repel women? Or has she got it under control or has she lost it?

Jess mentions it in Hopeless' run as a reason why she doesn't date very much, I believe, but I think they've toned down the repel part.

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Jess mentions it in Hopeless' run as a reason why she doesn't date very much, I believe, but I think they've toned down the repel part.

Thanks, I really have to catch up with these.

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Is there a good podcast that takes an issue-by-issue look at Crisis on Infinite Earths? I feel like reading it again and would like something to listen to while I do so.

I'm looking for something like what The Fantasticast is doing with the Fantastic Four, or From Crisis to Crisis does with the post-crisis Superman.

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I remembered the scene, but can only find clips of this one panel. I need it to make a dumb point to someone about the Batsman

Do you know the specific issue?

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what really counts as a superhero? I sometimes don't consider folks like doctor strange and constantine to be ones for various reasons while iron man is undoubtedly one, even if he ain't street level.

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Dec 24, 2009

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If they fight crime doing things the reader can’t do.

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If they fight crime doing things the reader can’t do.

Who's the legal authority that decides what is and isn't "crime" when it comes to spacemen like Adam Warlock and the Silver Surfer?

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what really counts as a superhero? I sometimes don't consider folks like doctor strange and constantine to be ones for various reasons while iron man is undoubtedly one, even if he ain't street level.

Being a superhero is like being a nation. If you can get enough other superheroes to recognize you as one, then you are.

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Feb 11, 2008

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Let my inner 12 year old answer this question for you. Superhero implies super powers, while hero implies no super powers. So even though Batman trains himself to peak physical conditions, he is still a mortal person without super powers, whereas mutants have extra-human style powers henceforth they are classified as superheroes.

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Batman is a pulp hero granted the superhero label by association and by virtue of being a comic book character. That's my take.

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Or as many have said, his power is being super rich.

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Who's the legal authority that decides what is and isn't "crime" when it comes to spacemen like Adam Warlock and the Silver Surfer?

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Batman is a pulp hero granted the superhero label by association and by virtue of being a comic book character. That's my take.

I don’t know if there’s any pulp heroes that had a “no killing” policy. The Shadow and the Black Bat sure didn’t. I think what you’re claiming is far more true of the Punisher than of Batman.

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I don’t know if there’s any pulp heroes that had a “no killing” policy. The Shadow and the Black Bat sure didn’t. I think what you’re claiming is far more true of the Punisher than of Batman.

Aren't they usually trying to catch the bad guys, they just have no compunction against killing, not intentionally looking for large groups of baddies to massacre.

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I don’t know if there’s any pulp heroes that had a “no killing” policy. The Shadow and the Black Bat sure didn’t. I think what you’re claiming is far more true of the Punisher than of Batman.

Batman's no killing rule come about a few years after his creation. Early Batman stories showed that Batman had no problem killing people, or using a gun, or throwing people off buildings to their death. I think the no killing rule for Batman was introduced probably around the time Robin was, but I could be wrong with that.

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Batman's no killing rule come about a few years after his creation. Early Batman stories showed that Batman had no problem killing people, or using a gun, or throwing people off buildings to their death. I think the no killing rule for Batman was introduced probably around the time Robin was, but I could be wrong with that.

You are correct it was introduced with Robin, in issue #4 of Batman He only ran around with a gun for like 2 years at most, the character is almost 80 years old by now.

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You are correct it was introduced with Robin, in issue #4 of Batman He only ran around with a gun for like 2 years at most, the character is almost 80 years old by now.

He had a gun in the best storyline - odyssey

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I have a copy of Odyssey that I bought about 4 years ago and I still haven't read it. I am just scared that it won't live up to the hilarious reviews from Comics Alliance.

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I don’t know if there’s any pulp heroes that had a “no killing” policy. The Shadow and the Black Bat sure didn’t. I think what you’re claiming is far more true of the Punisher than of Batman.

The Phantom isn't big on killing (although he's fine with guns).

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Doc Savage took his defeated villains to a private clinic he ran in upstate New York (his "Crime College") where he performed brain surgery on them to turn them into productive members of society.

With lobotomies.

The "lobotomies" thing was just Denny O'Neil's interpretation. In the pulps, Doc was said to have discovered a "violence gland" in the brain that caused criminal behavior, which could be treated through surgery; remember, these stories were written back when psychosurgery was an amazing new field.

Actually, in the first two or three books, Doc casually kills criminals right and left, sometimes even with his bare hands. But a few books in, Lester Dent apparently decided that leaving a trail of bodies behind was a bad look for his scientific super-man, and Doc acquired a code against killing, preferring to incapacitate enemies with "mercy bullets" and knockout gas. The archvillains he faces still almost always end up dead, but only brought about by their own arrogance or carelessness.

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Feb 13, 2012

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Doc Savage only ever had one returning enemy, namely John Sunlight, and he came back a grand total of once after his first appearance.

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I don’t know if there’s any pulp heroes that had a “no killing” policy. The Shadow and the Black Bat sure didn’t. I think what you’re claiming is far more true of the Punisher than of Batman.

If you want to argue that he's not a pulp hero because of his moral code then to me that makes him even more definitely a superhero.

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Do you know the specific issue?

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