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Okay I have probably spent way too much time doing online research and asking/annoying people at my club about what feder to buy first and I think I know but wanna run it by you all just to have an outside perspective. Please be harsh.

Conclusion : I’m an idiot noob who hasn’t figured out anything (I’m just getting with comfortable with schielhau for gently caress’s sake) so I should just get a bog standard regyenyei, maybe modify the hilt next time I get access to a lathe and just admit that I’m not going to be 100% happy with my first feder and this is me experimenting so I can buy a perfect second feder.

Also this is going way in advance, but is there a breakdown of the various tournaments? I might be vaguely interested long term and am curious. From a very cursory google, the only tournament here is something called Fecht Yeah! (great name), but it’s only open to women and LGBTQ minorities. Which is awesome and good but kind of useless to me except that I definitely want to go and cheer there, cause I am the straightest whitest most privileged being to ever live.

Feders: Make sure to ask around and try a bunch of different swords and buy the one that feels the best to you. If it feels good and you can afford it, go for it. Just be mindful of stiffness in the blade. A good all-arounder is the Regenyei feder, since it's on the low-end price wise and are built to last. For your size it might be a good fit.

I really like the Albion meyer, but again it's all about personal preference.

As for tournaments:

red hairy pussy video is happening next weekend, so I'm sure you can go and check that one out. The longsword tournament is sold out, but a bunch of people from your school are going.

There's also Fechtschule NY (FNY) which happens every summer in upstate NY, not too far from the city (maybe a 2 hour drive). It's a NYHFA-run tournament, so a bunch of people from your school go.

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Feder chat :

Okay I have probably spent way too much time doing online research and asking/annoying people at my club about what feder to buy first and I think I know but wanna run it by you all just to have an outside perspective. Please be harsh.

Conclusion : I’m an idiot noob who hasn’t figured out anything (I’m just getting with comfortable with schielhau for gently caress’s sake) so I should just get a bog standard regyenyei, maybe modify the hilt next time I get access to a lathe and just admit that I’m not going to be 100% happy with my first feder and this is me experimenting so I can buy a perfect second feder.

Also this is going way in advance, but is there a breakdown of the various tournaments? I might be vaguely interested long term and am curious. From a very cursory google, the only tournament here is something called Fecht Yeah! (great name), but it’s only open to women and LGBTQ minorities. Which is awesome and good but kind of useless to me except that I definitely want to go and cheer there, cause I am the straightest whitest most privileged being to ever live.

There is NOTHING wrong with the Regenei's. I've had the standard for almost 10 years now and the ringed tournament version for 5 (this is my usual practice feder).

I'm not going to comment about Fecht Yeah! because its exclusionary. I UNDERSTAND why they are doing it, but disagree with it. A lot of good people do attend and some good instructors come to do their thing.

Longpoint is nearly sold out at this time for tournaments unless you have armour, want to cut and then do some longsword routines (I think even that may be sold out now too). But this is a great thing to attend even if you are not doing the tourneys. I will be teaching a few classes there again this year.

I also have my own event in August up in New Hampshire. TYPICALLY its an invite only event to keep it under 100 people. I have moved away from tourneys starting this past event and focused a lot on classes and having a good time with your HEMA friends. I think it went well. I brought 5 FULL kegs of cider and beer. At the end of the three day event, I had one half keg left... LOL and that doesn't include what other people brought for booze, the trips to the distillery and the local meadery either...

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I had not heard of a Feder and looked up some info on it. Seems very interesting and from what I can gather was/is a two handed fencing sword but I’m not clear on something. Was it used to safely use longsword techniques when not intending to hurt someone or is it it’s own distinct thing with separate techniques from the longsword? Was it ever used for actual fighting or is it only historically a fencing sword?

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I had not heard of a Feder and looked up some info on it. Seems very interesting and from what I can gather was/is a two handed fencing sword but I’m not clear on something. Was it used to safely use longsword techniques when not intending to hurt someone or is it it’s own distinct thing with separate techniques from the longsword? Was it ever used for actual fighting or is it only historically a fencing sword?



Feders are just a training tool for longswords, the historical examples were presumably used the same way we use them now-sparring with a bit more safety than a blunt longsword. As such the techniques are the same with the caveat that binds won't work quite right without an edge.

Now if you really want to look into it, I think there's a deep rabbit hole of nerds screaming at each other about Meyer and whether some of his stuff may be better suited for sporting duels with feders as opposed to mortal combat.

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Feders are just a training tool for longswords, the historical examples were presumably used the same way we use them now-sparring with a bit more safety than a blunt longsword. As such the techniques are the same with the caveat that binds won't work quite right without an edge.

Now if you really want to look into it, I think there's a deep rabbit hole of nerds screaming at each other about Meyer and whether some of his stuff may be better suited for sporting duels with feders as opposed to mortal combat.

Well said.

Feder = feather sword.

And nothing binds properly without an edge. I've tried a bunch of stuff but nothing really lets you understand fühlen without a true edge.

I start my students with feders. Once they reach level two (I call them red shirts, you start with nothing, get a blue shirt after your 9 week intro class and 2 years later or so can go for your red shirt), you are required to do all but contact drills with blunted longswords, but you will also do paired drills with sharps. I cut down the tip so no accidental stabbies, but the blades are still pointy and sharp and the first time you do a binding drill with a sharp you KNOW. I cannot say it much better than that. You understand so much more about how a blade works and why blade to blade contact was vital when you can do it.

Almost all competitions use feders so we don't kill each other. Feders do hurt can break bones etc, but not like a blunted longsword can. Hell I can cut tatami with a blunted longsword (I use the Hanwei Practical Bastard Sword, which I call Bertha). If I do a standard zornhau, I'm going to break your collar bone if I hit you. A zorn-ort is going to dent your mask well and good. With a feder? Not so much. Thats not to say people don't break other people with feders... they do...

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Regenyei and Chlebowski are both popular at my school, because they are jack of all trades good, affordable, and durable.

I've never met anyone who bought their ideal feder first and just stuck with that exact type forever. Your abilities, preferences, and habits will likely lead you in different directions as your skills develop. I started out with a Pavel Moc and loved it for a while but now use a Chlebowski and prefer it.

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Well said.

Feder = feather sword.

And nothing binds properly without an edge. I've tried a bunch of stuff but nothing really lets you understand fühlen without a true edge.

I start my students with feders. Once they reach level two (I call them red shirts, you start with nothing, get a blue shirt after your 9 week intro class and 2 years later or so can go for your red shirt), you are required to do all but contact drills with blunted longswords, but you will also do paired drills with sharps. I cut down the tip so no accidental stabbies, but the blades are still pointy and sharp and the first time you do a binding drill with a sharp you KNOW. I cannot say it much better than that. You understand so much more about how a blade works and why blade to blade contact was vital when you can do it.

Almost all competitions use feders so we don't kill each other. Feders do hurt can break bones etc, but not like a blunted longsword can. Hell I can cut tatami with a blunted longsword (I use the Hanwei Practical Bastard Sword, which I call Bertha). If I do a standard zornhau, I'm going to break your collar bone if I hit you. A zorn-ort is going to dent your mask well and good. With a feder? Not so much. Thats not to say people don't break other people with feders... they do...

Paired drills with sharps make me nervous. What level of armoring do you require for them?

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Regenyei and Chlebowski are both popular at my school, because they are jack of all trades good, affordable, and durable.

I've never met anyone who bought their ideal feder first and just stuck with that exact type forever. Your abilities, preferences, and habits will likely lead you in different directions as your skills develop. I started out with a Pavel Moc and loved it for a while but now use a Chlebowski and prefer it.

I like my Chlebowski but the delay on delivering my order was absurd so I can't really recommend.

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Paired drills with sharps make me nervous. What level of armoring do you require for them?

Same gear as full contact sparring. So a heavy jacket (like SPES or Neyman), gorget, mask with back of head protection, and good gloves.

The folks I let use sharps are doing so with me. And only me.

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I like my Chlebowski but the delay on delivering my order was absurd so I can't really recommend.

Same. Not to mention from those at my school that have them, quality is very much a crap shoot. One is perfect, the other is... meh.

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Yeah I like the Albion Meyer a lot, but also the Darkhorse armory Workhorse is really good and borrowing a clubmate’s St James, it just feels really right in my hands.

But those are all waaaaay more expensive and I am but a PhD student making lovely numbers so going with something cheaper so I can train for a year and sock away the money and come up with a more informed opinion sounds good.

Also thanks for the video links and the tournament breakdown! Would totally go to Long Island Point but I’m getting on a plane to Japan then so... No.

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Oct 11, 2012

In the 17th century, the Holy Roman Empire was ravaged by the Thirty Years' War. In the middle of this chaos appeared a Japanese mercenary named Isaak. His fierce battle begins!


i bought an expensive sword but i only bought one

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Same gear as full contact sparring. So a heavy jacket (like SPES or Neyman), gorget, mask with back of head protection, and good gloves.

The folks I let use sharps are doing so with me. And only me.

Some time ago I saw a youtube video from a school (I wanna say it was Roland Warzecha?) where they did sharp binding drills with no protection at all. The idea being that the usual gear wouldn't protect properly anyway, so they went without any so as not to end up with a false sense of security. I can't really judge whether that's reasonable or not, but my first reaction was certainly

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Yeah, I'd want steel, myself, out of a strong respect for both leverage and idiots.

Never know when someone new to swords is going to make that one big dumb mistake, usually out of pure nerves. At least with feders that usually doesn't mean permanent injuries.

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For those who want to travel a little to attend an event the Helsinki Longsword Open 2019 has opened registration. Includes longsword, singlestick and cutting competitions, more informatio here:
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All weapons are provided by the event so no need to worry about transporting swords in a plane.

I really want to go. The SO and I have several good friends in Finland... but I'm not much of a tourney type and its not exactly inexpensive to get over there.

I would LOVE to do some armour classes is Europe. I don't see a lot of European HEMA types in harness.

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Some time ago I saw a youtube video from a school (I wanna say it was Roland Warzecha?) where they did sharp binding drills with no protection at all. The idea being that the usual gear wouldn't protect properly anyway, so they went without any so as not to end up with a false sense of security. I can't really judge whether that's reasonable or not, but my first reaction was certainly

That was probably the European folks that do MS I.33. Its some good stuff but yeah... I'm like what happens if an oops happens?


But this is the reason I only do sharps with people I know and trust.

I'll do sharps with most of the folks from NYHFA, Broken Plow, Jake Norwood's folks around VA and MD, and a few others I've done HEMA with for years.

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