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Their main argument is maintenance overhead and the fact the same WiFI will eventually provide access to the internal LANs via a seperate WPA2 encrypted SSID anyway (which I'm hesitant about due to security concerns ).


It's pretty easy to get pfsense to NAT one interface out through its own external IP (using multiple virtual IPs on one physical WAN interface) but I think you all are right despite the argument of the contractor, for now I'll sleep better knowing that the guest network is on its own box.

Maintenance overhead is a BS excuse. Put that one aside for a moment. Needing access to internal LANs means you probably should do VLANs. I actually have my own network set up like this with PFsense and Ubiquiti APs. It was really easy to accomplish actually.

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Windows 10 Updates are confusing me.

Despite happily receiving and acknowledging GPOs that should make them run every day, I'm seeing endpoints that just sit there not updating until someone hits the button. There's a setting that says "Disable automatic updates" but nothing that matches in the gpresult output and I dunno whether it's a real thing or just a confusingly named GP thing where it disables disabling something to enable it. Anyone have any bright ideas? Am I missing something incredibly obvious?



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Windows 10 Updates are confusing me.

Despite happily receiving and acknowledging GPOs that should make them run every day, I'm seeing endpoints that just sit there not updating until someone hits the button. There's a setting that says "Disable automatic updates" but nothing that matches in the gpresult output and I dunno whether it's a real thing or just a confusingly named GP thing where it disables disabling something to enable it. Anyone have any bright ideas? Am I missing something incredibly obvious?





Are you certain there is not another group policy superseding your automatic update policy?

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Are you certain there is not another group policy superseding your automatic update policy?

Almost certain - from my third screenshot it looks like that must be it, but I've been through all the GPOs on the DC and the gpresult output on an affected machine and I can't see anything else touching Windows Update.

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Almost certain - from my third screenshot it looks like that must be it, but I've been through all the GPOs on the DC and the gpresult output on an affected machine and I can't see anything else touching Windows Update.

What does a gpresult run show on that machine as the winning policy?

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Easy way to test: apply the gpo to the container that workstation is in and enforce the policy so nothing above can overwrite.

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That GPO was winning, but I made it Enforced and it looks like that may have fixed it, which is awesome:



Now if only I knew what was causing them to be disabled before I did that...

e: Is there a list anywhere of these user-facing descriptions and the specific GP setting they correspond to? I'm not sure whether "Auto Reboot will not happen with logged on users" is the same as "No auto-restart with logged on users for scheduled automatic updates installations". If it is, I don't know why it's shown here, since it's Not Configured in the GPO.

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If a prior implementation of a policy, or a policy at a higher container level, made an adjustment to a setting, the machine will generally not revert those changes after the GPO is removed.

You may have had a policy that set those options at some point and now dont, but the new policy isnt making changes to them, so they stayed as last configured.

Also enforcement only prevents the changes in the gpo youre enforcing from being overwritten from above. All other settings from upper policies will still apply.

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You can set the OU to block inheritance if you want to block all other GPOs. This is good for testing, but someone made a mistake in designing the OU structure if you need to use it heavily in production. Sometimes you just inherit a giant mess from the person before you and need to make it work while you figure out how to do it properly with as little downtime as possible. (This can be a nightmare and not worth doing if there are a bunch of other things reading AD and using the OU to determine what permissions users should have, but this is unlikely in a small shop probably 1-2 applications that'll need to be updated)

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You can set the OU to block inheritance if you want to block all other GPOs. This is good for testing, but someone made a mistake in designing the OU structure if you need to use it heavily in production. Sometimes you just inherit a giant mess from the person before you and need to make it work while you figure out how to do it properly with as little downtime as possible. (This can be a nightmare and not worth doing if there are a bunch of other things reading AD and using the OU to determine what permissions users should have, but this is unlikely in a small shop probably 1-2 applications that'll need to be updated)

‘an insane man that gave me PTSD’ posted:

‘an object can only be in one OU. so we can’t have a machine be both in a laptops porn for women calendar and Finance chubby girls porn videos and w. europe OUs at once. We needed to drill down - lowest common denominator - user based policy’

the above quote was in ‘documentation’ — top level AD schema objects filled w/text — someplace I worked a few months in the trenches doing damage control
So the newbs wouldn’t find it and abuse its power (he actually told me to look there on the way out, cursed man)

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the above quote was in ‘documentation’ — top level AD schema objects filled w/text — someplace I worked a few months in the trenches doing damage control
So the newbs wouldn’t find it and abuse its power (he actually told me to look there on the way out, cursed man)

But you can filter GPOs by user groups if you need to, and I haven't found a better way to map drives and printers since there will always be 100 exceptions. I worked at place that had a no filter policy because it was "too confusing" and it turned into each department having a bunch of OUs and each user basically ended up in their own OU if they had been there longer than a year or two since they needed non standard stuff.

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But you can filter GPOs by user groups if you need to, and I haven't found a better way to map drives and printers since there will always be 100 exceptions. I worked at place that had a no filter policy because it was "too confusing" and it turned into each department having a bunch of OUs and each user basically ended up in their own OU if they had been there longer than a year or two since they needed non standard stuff.

reasons along those lines but in reverse, ignorant stubbornness and prob The Great Old ones lay at the base of my dudes AD terror dome. definitely not logic or what have you.

I got out a much work-smarter person at least, with a conviction to not become him

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I'm having this strange issue with O365. I've got a single user that only receives email on her domain account. She has a local account/phone (first for testing, second for email while travelling).

She doesn't get all of her emails unless she logs onto her Domain account, she doesn't get all of her emails from her phone/local account. I've sent test emails and observed them being delivered, but not coming through.

I've tried forcing it to sync but it still ignores it. Anyone come across this before? It's a bit of a head scratcher.

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