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Feb 18, 2011



Every six months or so I run into this guy who asks if I can come with him to a gas station to show them my ID so he can buy a jerry can. Every time I tell him you don't need an ID to buy a jerry can as I have purchased one with cash in recent memory. Then he swears at me and tells me I don't like helping people and blah blah and looks for another victim. The last time I told him I'd go with him if he just told me what his scam was since I see him a couple times a year pulling the same nonsense but he just yelled at me and ran away.

What does he really want? There's usually a gas station in sight so I'm pretty sure he's not trying to lure me away to murder me in an alley.

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Maybe he runs away with the gas and you get stiffed with paying? Wierd one.

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It was almost certainly a foreign call centre, number was blocked and the bloke had an Indian accent. Call centres here try not to hire Indians with obvious accents because they tend to get hung up on immediately thanks to a shitload of people getting calls from Microsoft about viruses, the ATO/criminal record scams, solar panel and energy saver rebates, etc. Every scam call I can remember receiving has been a blocked or overseas number with an Indian person on the other end. I wish they had better job prospects over there so they didn't get suckered into scamming people. Is there any truth to the scammer call centres being advertised as legitimate jobs and then paying people peanuts to read a script until they land a sucker, and then have to hand the phone over to a "supervisor" who is better prepared to lie and threaten and improvise their way into your wallet?

No you don't. See, race to the bottom and all, "better job prospects" in India means more skilled jobs in the US have been outsourced for a third the cost.

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As a very deep and not at all worn out metaphor, every aspect of American capitalism is "like a shell game" where you direct peoples attention to a distraction, then pocket their money just when they think they have a chance to win. In other ways, I don't really see the similarity.
Good for you? Not actually familiar with the game (one of the reasons I never tried the idea above, besides natural timidity, is that street-cons like that aren't very popular in Israel), but what would you do / have done if someone tried the trick above? Seems like exactly the sort of semi-clever thing a bunch of drunken frat boys would pull?

most people will do just about anything to avoid starting a physical confrontation, which is something a whole lot of grifts count on, although a frathouse seems like the very worst possible place to try it

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I was riding the BART in San Francisco once and saw some guys doing a shell game. However, they were making it really easy, weren't charging their customers, and would award you a dollar if you picked the right shell. The only catch was, they wanted you to "show them some money" so that they knew you weren't homeless or something like that, because it'd be horrible to give money to someone who doesn't have any, or something.

I saw a few seemingly random people win their dollars. They came to me, I picked the right one, and then they asked me to show them my money. I said "no," they insisted, and I told them to get the gently caress out of there. They quickly hopped off the train at the next stop. (I'm not really intimidating, I think they just didn't want to attract too much attention)

I assume they were just trying to find out where your wallet was, so someone else could find an easy mark to pickpocket? Or maybe later in the scam, if they stayed around long enough, they'd ask you to bet on it? It did seem like they were legitimately giving out money, but they were just $1 bills so it wasn't like it was costing them much.

There's a pretty common scam in Europe (mainly in Spain) where someone in a train carriage will shout, "Someones stolen my wallet!", leading to everyone instinctively putting their hand where their wallet is to check it's still there. For a few unlucky punters it won't be there in a few seconds!

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Couple years ago a perfectly respectable looking guy came up to me with a broken car key telling me how he broke the key in the ignition and then accidentally locked the car. He only needed $2 for the bus to get his spare set from home. I offered to help him break into his car, but he insisted it was too far away. Whatever, it was $2 so I gave it to him.

I've since run into him two more times with the same story in the same parking lot. No idea why he's got such an elaborate story for a measly $2. Also can't imagine making much each day.

I also had a friend fall for the computer virus popup scam. She told me the next day how she opened the link and filled in her credit card info, but the virus popup was still on her computer. I told her to check her transactions right now and sure enough, there were multiple payments to "google corp" that had maxed out her card. I had no idea that people under 30 fell for these.

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Couple years ago a perfectly respectable looking guy came up to me with a broken car key telling me how he broke the key in the ignition and then accidentally locked the car. He only needed $2 for the bus to get his spare set from home. I offered to help him break into his car, but he insisted it was too far away. Whatever, it was $2 so I gave it to him.

I've since run into him two more times with the same story in the same parking lot. No idea why he's got such an elaborate story for a measly $2. Also can't imagine making much each day.

I also had a friend fall for the computer virus popup scam. She told me the next day how she opened the link and filled in her credit card info, but the virus popup was still on her computer. I told her to check her transactions right now and sure enough, there were multiple payments to "google corp" that had maxed out her card. I had no idea that people under 30 fell for these.

The average time per person on that is probably 30 seconds to a minute or two, tops. I'd guess that as far as "hey can I have 2 bucks for x goes' that story has a very high success rate. I doubt he's trying it literally non-stop, but he can probably run it by 30+ people an hour. Also if someone pulls out a wallet with a huge wad of cash, there's an easy opportunity for a serious pay day.

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My favourite has always been the guys selling X out of the back of their truck, usually AV equipment. Offering ludicrous deals on garbage in expensive boxes with the veil of dubious legality that used to draw people in like flies.

I thought they'd died out but a year ago I was flagged down by a guy claiming to be coming back from a jobsite with a bunch of extra projectors that "no one would miss". Of course the story falls apart when you try to check out the equipment or arrange a later meetup since you're not carrying cash. Points for tenacity I guess.

Yeah I remember GBS used to have a MLM/scam thread (very interesting) and the AV equipment in the parking lot scam comes up a lot. From what I understand they sell you SUPER poo poo cheap electronics under the guise they are stolen high end electronics.

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most people will do just about anything to avoid starting a physical confrontation, which is something a whole lot of grifts count on, although a frathouse seems like the very worst possible place to try it

Frat parties were a pretty good target for cons, since by definition they're drunk, and not thinking 100% straight. And while fratboys might give someone the bum's rush, they're also not about to take someone out back and smash their hand with a hammer.

It was a hell of a lot safer than something like trying to hustle pool.

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Not sure if this is the past place to ask but I've been getting a poo poo ton of telemarketing spam calls recently on my cell phone (may have accidentally answered one call like a month ago and now the flood gates have opened)
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What did you get if you tried calling any of them back? Usually the numbers are spoofed, so there's a good chance you could be bothering an innocent person whose phone number was stolen for this scam. It happened to my cell once, got a few random people "returning" calls I never made to them.

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Not sure if this is the past place to ask but I've been getting a poo poo ton of telemarketing spam calls recently on my cell phone (may have accidentally answered one call like a month ago and now the flood gates have opened)
Once I realized these same 3 to 5 numbers are bogus I just blacklisted and blocked them but it's still annoying as gently caress and sometimes they poo poo up my voice-mail box with blank 15 second voice-mails. Anyways is there any way to gently caress with these numbers back? Anything I can do to fight back? The ones I've answered seem to be computer run, maybe one was real live person but the rest were just bots. Is there a program out there that will just continuously call these fuckers numbers? Please help shits pissing me off.

Don't bother. Just use the block feature on your phone.

If you get a call from a number you don't recognize, and aren't expecting a call, then just answer the phone but remain silent. It's often a machine looking for active numbers to add to its call list. If you remain silent it will think the line is bad. If you don't hear anything after several seconds then just hang up.

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The FTC says you shouldn't interact with the call at all. miriam mcdonald naked video There's a system called nomorobo that won the FTC's challenge to stop these robocalls, but they never supported my cell phone carrier and now it looks like they only do VOIP for some reason.

You can try putting the "disconnected" SIT tones on your voicemail. That helped me for a little while.

I report these calls to donotcall.gov. They come and go. I've gotten 3-4 a week before, but I haven't had one in the last few months.

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You can try putting the "disconnected" SIT tones on your voicemail. That helped me for a little while.

I report these calls to donotcall.gov. They come and go. I've gotten 3-4 a week before, but I haven't had one in the last few months.

Yeah, I've gotten a few of these calls lately. They show up as something like 512-011-XXXX, and I just let them go straight to voicemail, because that obviously is not a legit number. (For those who aren't familiar with how American Telephone systems work, dialing 0 takes you the operator, so no American telephone number starts with 0.)

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As I handed the coins, I saw a few of his fingers had been cut (and healed)*. Awshit. Then the dude started berating me for giving him too little, probably hoping to intimidate me into fishing out the wallet and giving him more. I just made my excuses, I said with the 2€ he now had he could get to the police station a few stations away and report what he had to, and then I got the hell away. I saw him a few times during that year, trying the same thing on other people.

*Druggie with drug debts.

A few years living in Europe is one of the few times that made me appreciate my military training. Not in a macho way; I'm a weenie that does paperwork all day, so as fun as playing GI Joe and firing a rifle was it was generally useless to my day to day job. But I got really good at staring blankedly at people who had a perceived authority over me while saying "that's not my problem." Which probably saved me at least a few hundred Euros when people tried this strongarm intimidation scam.

So many scams rely on folks not wanting to get into a confrontation (this goes triple for a nonresident who already feels vulnerable under a legal system that isn't their own). Thing is, a scammer has nothing to gain and a lot to lose from actually starting a confrontation, so they'll almost always back down. Don't feel scared to call bullshit on what you feel in the back of your brain is bullshit.

My favorite one was an older woman who walked straight up to me at a German public rest stop and started begging in German. I ignored her and walked towards my car, a Honda that a German wouldn't be caught dead driving. She switched to English and continued the scam. I stared at her blankly, she moved to French before I finally just got in my car, locked the door and drove off. I kinda wonder how many languages she'd have tried to con me in if I'd stuck around; I was actually pretty impressed.

Edit: I should note that it wasn't 'begging' per se so much as the standard "my car is broken down, please give me money to get a taxi despite the pay phone twenty meters away" scam that was so rampant at rest stops that we were briefed about it beforehand.

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As I handed the coins, I saw a few of his fingers had been cut (and healed)*. Awshit. Then the dude started berating me for giving him too little, probably hoping to intimidate me into fishing out the wallet and giving him more. I just made my excuses, I said with the 2€ he now had he could get to the police station a few stations away and report what he had to, and then I got the hell away. I saw him a few times during that year, trying the same thing on other people.

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Quickest way to weed these out is just offer to buy them the item they claim to need. I like to help people out but also hate getting scammed so, if they seem to really need help, I'll say "I'm not carrying any cash but I can buy you the (gas, bus ticket, food, diapers, etc.)" Nine times out of ten they pass which tells you how often they really need help and how often it's a con.

Off the subject, but I love caper/con men/double cross movies (House of Games, Matchstick Men, Oceans Eleven, Hard Eight, The Sting, etc.). Can anyone recommend some good con man/scam movies?

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Quickest way to weed these out is just offer to buy them the item they claim to need. I like to help people out but also hate getting scammed so, if they seem to really need help, I'll say "I'm not carrying any cash but I can buy you the (gas, bus ticket, food, diapers, etc.)" Nine times out of ten they pass which tells you how often they really need help and how often it's a con.

Off the subject, but I love caper/con men/double cross movies (House of Games, Matchstick Men, Oceans Eleven, Hard Eight, The Sting, etc.). Can anyone recommend some good con man/scam movies?

I only did this once because I didn't have any money and wasn't about to go to the ATM with this dude in the middle of the night, he was asking me for gas money so i offered to buy him like 10 dollars in gas on my card. He accepted it and seemed genuinely grateful. I guess I caught the only one that wasn't a scam with that. Usually when people come up to me I just give them spare change in my pocket.

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I only did this once because I didn't have any money and wasn't about to go to the ATM with this dude in the middle of the night, he was asking me for gas money so i offered to buy him like 10 dollars in gas on my card. He accepted it and seemed genuinely grateful. I guess I caught the only one that wasn't a scam with that. Usually when people come up to me I just give them spare change in my pocket.

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Some guy outside a Cheesecake Factory in Chicago was passing out "free" physical copies of The Onion, and if you accepted he'd push a postcard on you that was also "free" but came with a suggested donation. How is this scam supposed to play out? He just gave me the Onion, which I accepted because I was a dumb midwestern tourist, and when he told me I also had to take the postcard I just said no and he sulked off dejected. I just read the Onion while waiting for my table at the restaurant. He was still outside when we were done and pestered me about it until we got a taxi.

That's not really a scam. The local paper where I live did the same thing. They had a booth at our farmer's market and the guy handed me a free copy of (yesterday's) newspaper and I was like "sure". Then he wanted me to subscribe. I think it's supposed to play on your guilt for accepting a free item so really more of a (cheesy) sales tactic than a scam. He looked dejected and upset when I said no too.

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I guess I just assumed because the guy looked homeless and the only thing he was "selling" were random postcards. Could have been legit. I felt bad for a fraction of a second before the guy started getting obnoxious about it.

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Some guy outside a Cheesecake Factory in Chicago was passing out "free" physical copies of The Onion, and if you accepted he'd push a postcard on you that was also "free" but came with a suggested donation. How is this scam supposed to play out? He just gave me the Onion, which I accepted because I was a dumb midwestern tourist, and when he told me I also had to take the postcard I just said no and he sulked off dejected. I just read the Onion while waiting for my table at the restaurant. He was still outside when we were done and pestered me about it until we got a taxi.

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Walking out of a dollar store today, some guy pulls up in a minivan and asks me if I want to buy a flat screen TV.

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If they're already parked at the gas pump they probably do just want gas.

Often very untrue. I had a junky buddy who made a couple hundred bucks a week this way. Eventually, he'd have to switch parts of town, but our city was big enough.

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If they're coming up to you with a gas can, they probably don't.

The only time I've ever panhandled was when I really needed gas, and Is walked up to the station with my emergency can.

I asked one man, and he seemed happy to help, but he made sure to prepay inside with a card.


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