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Lauren Zuke is one of the best writers/boarders on the show and I'm pissed off beyond belief because literal children accused her of queerbaiting and bullied her off Twitter, loving hell

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Wait what? Was Garnet not on screen enough as a LITERAL QUEER RELATIONSHIP for these reactionary assholes? It's poo poo like this that makes me worry about all the tumblr oppression-fetish kids.

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Was not expecting a deep voice for Pearl, but I must admit it's a perfect fit.

it's writer/director/former boarder Joe Johnston doing the voice (story editor (same job as Matt Burnett, in fact they've worked on all the same projects)/3rd most frequent songwriter Ben Levin is doing Greg and the hotel staff, writer/boarder/2nd most frequent songwriter Jeff Liu did steven and the staff at the end)

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Getting mad over that poo poo is so bizarre to me. Like I've stated in this thread that I'd prefer it if Jasper remained a villain but it would be the lamest thing if I threw a poo poo fit whenever anyone stated differently or the show started hinting otherwise.

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To everyone complaining that Sardonyx kinda hijacked the episode - that was kinda the point of the episode. Garnet and Pearl and still making the old mistakes - Their projecting (My fusion can do this, yours must be able to as well. Oh I can't wait until Steven figures out how to use this old power of Rose Quartz). It's like they haven't quite had it beaten into them yet the lessons that Steven and Amethyst are comfortable with - Steven is big brother germany nude not and will never be Rose, he just shares some of her powers, and Amethyst shemale with a pussy is a poorly made quartz, but she has her own thing going on.

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Reminds me of the time I saw a post going around about how Korra ending up with Asami was counter-productive towards LGBT culture and, in fact, Makorra would have been the more queer ship because gender roles or something.

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From what I understand fans of the show bombard her with questions on all her social media, and she didn't feel the need to answer and respond to every tweet. Some people got angry with her for that and she got frustrated that everyone was using her as a surrogate for talking directly to the show. Somewhere along the lines people started arguing about Jasper and shipping, and it may have been ironic at first before going improbably more stupid.

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It's really sad that Zuke deactivated her twitter on such a down note. Especially after, as someone pointed, this episode basically being a reflection of Zuke when she was a fan of the show and not working on it. It had a callback to Sugilite's speaking role, and answered the age old question "Why did Pearl say she likes pie when she hates eating?" age to have sex She likes making them, which she is seen doing at the beginning of the episode

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From what I understand fans of the show bombard her with questions on all her social media, and she didn't feel the need to answer and respond to every tweet. Some people got angry with her for that and she got frustrated that everyone was using her as a surrogate for talking directly to the show. Somewhere along the lines people started arguing about Jasper and shipping, and it may have been ironic at first before going improbably more stupid.

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I felt bad until I read her tweets and now I'm just with her on this.

Artists have this weird thing going on where social media was like your comfortable space with your friends and then people started following you because of your work and pouring through all your conversations and every tweet you made in 2012 because you made or are involved in a popular piece of media. Then suddenly your private social space is also a performance you're unwittingly putting on for thousands of people who convinced themselves they are your personal acquaintance because they followed you on Twitter for 2 months.

Even if your heart is in the right place about it you can still contribute to this sort of thing. I see folks begging for her to come back to Twitter and they are in a sense part of the problem, because that's still expecting something of her or acting like she owes them her presence on Twitter. I don't feel like she was bullied or scared off, I feel more like she just checked out. I'm projecting a little though, I can't speak for her.

All of this said god what the gently caress though, of all the things to get mad about? Lapis and Peridot??? What the gently caress teenagers.

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Even if your heart is in the right place about it you can still contribute to this sort of thing. I see folks begging for her to come back to Twitter and they are in a sense part of the problem, because that's still expecting something of her or acting like she owes them her presence on Twitter. I don't feel like she was bullied or scared off, I feel more like she just checked out. I'm projecting a little though, I can't speak for her.

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