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It might. A decently thick one will probably be a bit expensive, but worth it. And at least if you get one of those you'll know there'll probably be a better return policy.

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The other option is to wait a week or two and see if your back adjusts. Sometimes different beds take a minute for your body to adjust to.

These are both (kinda) accurate. If you've been sleeping in a situation with lovely support, going to a new mattress (of any quality and variety) is going to make you a bit sore. Your body is used to getting by with a poor level of support, and it will take a bit to get used to. Additionally, all posturepedic mattresses have some sort of reinforcement around the center third of the mattress, ostensibly to assist in alignment (thus the disney cartoon sex pictures posturepedic you see ), which can have its own unique acclimatization time.

A topper is unlikely to help with muscle pain, or with a lack of support. They are used primarily to soften a surface, and therefore help mostly with contact pain of too hard a bed. E.g., toppers are recommended for a relatively new bed that causes shoulder pain when you sleep on your side. Toppers will never really affect the support of a mattress, only the comfort and pressure relief.

If you would elaborate on the pain you and your SO are experiencing (either here or in PM), I'll see if I can give you some more information to help.

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Funny enough both my wife and I woke up this morning with minimal back pain. I can't speak to the details of my wife's back pain but I'll say that mine is in the lower back, it makes it really hard to bend over and touch my toes in the morning. By mid-day its warmed up and feels better. Today it was minimal and I could reach my toes after waking up, albeit uncomfortably.

I searched around the web to see how long it takes to 'break in' a mattress, if there is such a thing, and I didn't get a consistent answer other than "yes there is a break in period" with a lower bound of a week and an upper bound of three months. So I guess five nights and starting to feel a bit more comfortable makes sense? Our bodies have to adjust to sleeping on garbage and the mattress might have to soften up a bit.

The mattress is really firm, which was intentional, I may look into a topper just to make it feel softer.

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Whatever happened to latex mattresses? Back when I last looked into this it seemed like as a people we'd all decided that a proper, uniform latex mattress was the objective ideal, yet now all I can find are these sketchy sounding 7+ zoned micro-spring and memoryfoam mattresses that are priced all over the place. Is it just because if you have like 8 layers of different stuff it's easier to charge a premium for it?

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Whatever happened to latex mattresses? Back when I last looked into this it seemed like as a people we'd all decided that a proper, uniform latex mattress was the objective ideal, yet now all I can find are these sketchy sounding 7+ zoned micro-spring and memoryfoam mattresses that are priced all over the place. Is it just because if you have like 8 layers of different stuff it's easier to charge a premium for it?

Good latex is animals and woman sex crazy expensive. Furthermore, pure latex mattresses are generally very firm and are susceptible to moisture damage. Moisture (e.g., sweat) will break latex down faster than just about any other bedding material... and the majority of people really suck at taking care of their beds. Other constructions are more robust.

lovely latex, or latex foam, is usually much cheaper than good talalay latex, in both price and performance. Dunlop latex is generally even firmer than talalay latex, and therefore only really appeals to folks that want ultra firm sleeping surfaces.

Honestly, a classic Purple mattress is likely closest to latex in feel and performance without what latex would cost. Take this with a legends of porn 4 heaping spoonful of salt, as my exposure to Purple is extremely limited, and I'm going exclusively off of their rubberized polymer--and good latex is a type of rubber.

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Just pulled the trigger on a purple king2. FYI, if you add a mattress to your cart then leave it there for a couple of days they'll send you a link for $50 off if you complete in the next 48 hours.

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The mattress was delivered just over 2 months ago, this is my 2 month review:

We came from a relatively firm <$1k Ikea memory foam king mattress that had developed big dips after about 1.5 years which we liked aside from the dips.

Wife and I love the feel of the purple. Different than anything else we've tried, probably a little less firm than we expected but very comfortable. It sleeps noticibly cooler than our previous mattress.

Unfortunately, the mattress has developed 1/4" dips where we sleep over the course of the two months we've had it. I contacted Purple and they immediately shipped us a replacement after a few questions and a single photo claiming it was a manufacturing defect. When I asked if the 100 night trial period would reset, they said no. The 10-yr warranty on the mattress is anything over an inch depression would qualify for a warranty replacement. So I asked them to reconsider resetting the 100 day trial because otherwise I won't be able to determine if the depressions are a one-off defect or a feature of all Purple mattresses. I only have a few weeks left before the 100 day trial ends so if they don't reset the clock, I'm going to return it and start the search over.

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When the 100 night trail was almost over, we had decided to return it and try something else. The replacement mattress had the same hump in the middle as the original. Not sure if they just smash together the guts of two twin sizes and sew it all up or what but we decided it wasn't worth the $2k. So i contacted the return people and they offered me a 30 day extension to continue trying it. So I went with that and Purple sent a confirmation email which contained the following:

purple email posted:

Thank you for filling out the form, adding 30 days to your trial is an excellent idea! Your trial and [sic] will now expire on (10/21/2018).

Please be sure to get back with me before that date if you still decide you want to return the mattress. A refund will not be possible after this date. Please let me know if I can help in any way.
So on Friday 10/19 I filled out the online return form they send you and got a confirmation email that they received the form. I figured we were good to go as i had met the requirement to "get back with them before the date". There are several options to choose from on how to dispose of the mattress, one being to donate it to a charity, another to have Purple pick it up for you. Not owning a car big enough to move the king size mattress, I selected the latter option.

Yesterday, I was reading the fine print on the return confirmation email and it says:

fine print posted:

In order to get your refund, this return must to be completed and a donation receipt emailed to us by the end of your trial. *unless otherwise approved*
So I call up customer service the next day (Saturday 10/20) to make sure I was in the clear seeing as how the original returns rep made it sound like I just needed to initiate the return before 10/21 and made no mention of the "need to send a donation receipt" requirement. The service rep who picked up was very nice but the returns department aren't in on the weekends and she couldn't confirm that I'd get a refund if I didn't send a donation receipt rubbing cock with pussy that day (no one is in at all on Sunday apparently). So while I was on hold as she escalated to a manager, I start scrambling to figure out how to get this thing to a place which accepts them on a late Saturday afternoon (apparently no one wants to accept used mattress donations). Thankfully she got back on the line and had found a way to arrange for a pickup that day so I could get my return receipt. A Got Junk truck pulls up about 2 hours later and I sent in a photo of my copy of the receipt. I plan on calling on Monday morning to see how long it will take to get the refund.

We already purchased a Sleep Number mattress for about $700 more, being delivered on Tuesday. A big selling point for me was that Sleep Number can replace worn out parts of your mattress i.e. the foam topper if the indents get bothersome after x number of years. I also liked that the foam isn't a big portion of the support system so it's tendency to develop dips should be lower. Initially I thought the sleep tracker app would be tacky but after playing around with the sales guy's stats, I actually think it's pretty cool. Hope this is the last mattress I purchase in a long time. What an annoying thing to try and buy.

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I bought a purple (the old model) and I think that I think it's good. I've had it for about 3 weeks, and it's pretty dang good. The problem is that I spend 3 nights of the week at my significant others place, and her mattress is crazy soft. The result is that I sleep on my side at her place and on my back at my place, but my body never gets quite used to either one before switching again. I am going to hold onto it for most of the 100 day trial and see whats up. I'm 5'11" ~175 and my partner has only slept on the mattress one with me. She didn't care for it and prefers much softer. I still have random spots muscle soreness because of the constant switching, and because my significant other wraps me like an octopus when she sleeps, which can cause my body to rest in weird positions.

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lovely latex, or latex foam, is usually much cheaper than good talalay latex, in both price and performance. Dunlop latex is generally even firmer than talalay latex, and therefore only really appeals to folks that want ultra firm sleeping surfaces.

Honestly, a classic Purple mattress is likely closest to latex in feel and performance without what latex would cost. Take this with a eva longoria's sex tape heaping spoonful of salt, as my exposure to Purple is extremely limited, and I'm going exclusively off of their rubberized polymer--and good latex is a type of rubber.

Maybe generally but the one I have isn't very firm. Well maybe it is and it's what I'm use to but I did go for the less firm choice when I got it. Latex is also heavy.

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my-mattress-is-too-firm update: i bought a 2" memory foam topper for like $60 and oh my god my mattress is now the most comfortable thing i'll probably ever sleep on :3

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I want to get a futon for cheap. But I don't think it's wise to get one used as it could have bed bugs. I was thinking of getting a frame used, and then purchasing a new mattress separately. Though it makes me wonder, if mattresses for futons are univesal or specific to each frame they come on. Anybody know?

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I want to get a futon for cheap. But I don't think it's wise to get one used as it could have bed bugs. I was thinking of getting a frame used, and then purchasing a new mattress separately. Though it makes me wonder, if mattresses for futons are univesal or specific to each frame they come on. Anybody know?

Futon mattresses are generally universal, but they're generally very similar to one another. Your best bet for that kind of mattress is from a furniture store, as bed specialty stores are unlikely to carry such things.

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Futon mattresses are generally universal, but they're generally very similar to one another. Your best bet for that kind of mattress is from a furniture store, as bed specialty stores are unlikely to carry such things.

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Hey bed thread.

So I've been on-and-off researching memory foam beds. I've never slept on one, but the coil mattress we have is probably 15+ years old so we definitely need a new one.

A while ago I came to the determination that Loom and Leaf is our best option. Can't remember exactly why, but I had read several sites and made that decision. It's the memory foam bed made by Staava.

However, I have not seen that one mentioned in this thread (though I mostly skimmed so I may have missed it).

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I've been reading the thread, and I think I need a purple mattress in my life. Can anyone comment on the original vs. the new versions? My wife and I are side/stomach sleepers, and I'm mostly looking for something that sleeps cooler and is more supportive than our current 12 year old not-pocket-coil mattress. Does the new purple really have that much going for it over the original that it justifies the much higher price?

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I've been reading the thread, and I think I need a purple mattress in my life. Can anyone comment on the original vs. the new versions? My wife and I are side/stomach sleepers, and I'm mostly looking for something that sleeps cooler and is more supportive than our current 12 year old not-pocket-coil mattress. Does the new purple really have that much going for it over the original that it justifies the much higher price?

Purple will certainly be supportive; it's suprisingly firm and bouncy. It will not be particularly soft. You may be able to try Purple at a Mattress Firm, depending on where you live, though your options to try may be limited.

Foam cores in beds-in-a-box are not something I would consider to be especially high quality--but virtually anything you can find over ~$600 will be an upgrade over a connected coil unit. The Purple hybrids have encased coils instead of foam cores; steel is more expensive than biab foam cores, thus the dramatic price increase. I think the new hybrids are also quite a bit softer than the classic Purple, on account of allowing for more contouring with coils than with a foam core.

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Hey bed thread.

So I've been on-and-off researching memory foam beds. I've never slept on one, but the coil mattress we have is probably 15+ years old so we definitely need a new one.

A while ago I came to the determination that Loom and Leaf is our best option. Can't remember exactly why, but I had read several sites and made that decision. It's the memory foam bed made by Staava.

However, I have not seen that one mentioned in this thread (though I mostly skimmed so I may have missed it).

Anyone have experience with that one?

Looking over their website and marketing, I gotta give them an A+ in style; holy poo poo they are disingenuous as hell though. It boggles my mind they would compare their product to a Tempur Cloud Luxe Breeze, and they only show superficial nonsense. Regardless, the product specs look OK. Judging solely from those specs, that bed is going to be quite firm. I've sold things with 5 pound density foam, and that poo poo is teen in the woods not soft. I was going to write a lot more, but I'll simplify it as much as possible:

Of the online offerings I've seen, it looks to be among the better ones. I take umbrage with a pregnant women sex free lot of their disingenuous marketing and pseudo-diagnostics, though. Investigate their return/exchange policy (e.g., see if you have to take your own steps to donate the mattress to charity to get credit from the company for your refund, or other things similar), and if it is satisfactory, it may be worth trying.

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I really like my new purple 2 for what it's worth. Not sure it's quiiite worth the price, but was a giant upgrade for me. If you decide to try it, keep in mind the 100 day trial is only for the mattress and not the free peripheral they'll bundle in for you. That return policy is 30 days

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Of the online offerings I've seen, it looks to be among the better ones. I take umbrage with a free teen chat numbers lot of their disingenuous marketing and pseudo-diagnostics, though. Investigate their return/exchange policy (e.g., see if you have to take your own steps to donate the mattress to charity to get credit from the company for your refund, or other things similar), and if it is satisfactory, it may be worth trying.

I didn't buy a loom and leaf, but I did buy a saatva, and their customer service is really great. Assuming they do the same thing for their memory foam as their inner spring mattresses, they'll come get a mattress you don't like themselves, and refund you everything but $99.

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So, I actually went to a Mattress Firm today with my wife. They didn't have a Purple mattress on display, which was my main goal to see, but they did offer me some insight on their side of things. They told me that they actually see a ton of returns on the Purple, mostly because it apparently doesn't sleep as cool as people hope it will. They also showed me the Serta iComfort Blue Touch 1000, which was admittedly really comfortable. I'm not married to the idea of Purple, but I do sleep like a furnace, and so cooling is the prime need for me in a bed. I'm trying to remain as impartial to one bed over another as I can, especially as I'm not gonna be buying for at least the next few months. I dunno.

Synastren, what do you think? Just to recap, my wife's a side sleeper, I'm a side/stomach sleeper, she can sleep on whatever, and is always cold, I sleep like a furnace and need something to get the heat off my head and body at night. It really seems like I'm not gonna get to lay on a Purple without buying one, and I've heard some stories re: their return process taking a long while, and after today I'm just not sure anymore.

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I've heard great things about Tuft & Needle but I remember there was a mattress sales professional in the earlier pages of this thread who warned against T&N but didn't go into specifics beyond it being over-priced. I know lots of people in this thread love the Purple, but can anyone speak to good or bad experiences with T&N?

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I got one in 2016 when they still had the mail BIAB market space mostly to themselves and it still feels like it did the day I got it. They've since raised prices 25% though, I wouldn't do it again at the $750 price point.

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So, I actually went to a Mattress Firm today with my wife. They didn't have a Purple mattress on display, which was my main goal to see, but they did offer me some insight on their side of things. They told me that they actually see a ton of returns on the Purple, mostly because it apparently doesn't sleep as cool as people hope it will. They also showed me the Serta iComfort Blue Touch 1000, which was admittedly really comfortable. I'm not married to the idea of Purple, but I do sleep like a furnace, and so cooling is the prime need for me in a bed. I'm trying to remain as impartial to one bed over another as I can, especially as I'm not gonna be buying for at least the next few months. I dunno.

Synastren, what do you think? Just to recap, my wife's a side sleeper, I'm a side/stomach sleeper, she can sleep on whatever, and is always cold, I sleep like a furnace and need something to get the heat off my head and body at night. It really seems like I'm not gonna get to lay on a Purple without buying one, and I've heard some stories re: their return process taking a long while, and after today I'm just not sure anymore.

If you free hardcore pussy pics really want to go the Purple route, the Firm can still provide one for you, even if you don't get the opportunity to try it. If you're in a market where they don't carry one, and you don't like it, the return process through Mattress Firm will be incredibly painless since your return will provide the market with a model to show in a clearance store. This happened in my market--an online purchase turned into a return, and now my market has a single Purple to show. If you do happen to go the Purple route, you 100% need to tell your sales guy that there is a line item in the system to put on your invoice that allows for a free return/exchange, which is one of the two exceptions to our policy regarding returns/exchange.

If you and your wife have no issue with pressure on your hips/shoulders when sleeping on your side, the BT 1000 is a perfectly fine mattress. That's the first mattress in our foam lineup that will really start to show any active cooling technology in any significant way, aside from one really gimmicky cheap one that we recently discontinued. I don't think that the cooling in the BT 1000 is so strong that it will be uncomfortable for your better half, but it will sexy nude brazilian women certainly help you. If you have more specific questions, shoot me a PM!

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I've heard great things about Tuft & Needle but I remember there was a mattress sales professional in the earlier pages of this thread who warned against T&N but didn't go into specifics beyond it being over-priced. I know lots of people in this thread love the Purple, but can anyone speak to good or bad experiences with T&N?

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Casper can still go gently caress off and die, though.

The key thing to keep in mind with BIAB experiences--especially online purchases--is that people seeking those products are usually trading a failing (or failed) mattress for one that is in good condition. As such, those new beds feel tyra banks completely nude amazing and they get raved about. The vast majority of folks only think about their mattress when something fails, or just after something is replaced. We'll start getting a much clearer picture of the long-term performance of BIAB products in the next couple of years. T&N started in 2012, and Casper started in 2014, so only the earliest adopters of T&N have passed 5 years of ownership.

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Why do you say that? Is it because of the bloggers they were paying off (if I'm remembering the article posted earlier in the thread correctly)?

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Absolutely. I don't need a new mattress but I went to a Mattress Firm to try a Purple and a tulo. The tulo felt way too soft, even at the firmest option. The purple's firmest option felt absolutely heavenly. I actually felt my upper back crack a little bit. It's too bad the Purple sales seem to only be a free pillow with a mattress purchase--otherwise, I'd be very tempted to upgrade on black Friday.

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Why do you say that? Is it because of the bloggers they were paying off (if I'm remembering the article posted earlier in the thread correctly)?

It's been a bit since I read that linked article, but IIRC, they have shady, predatory business practices where they were basically paying people off to write good reviews, and then when they didn't get a good review from a guy and couldn't buy him out, they basically sued him into oblivion and bought out his blog and turned it into the Casper Fanwank Blog. Regardless of how good their beds are, that's a loving lovely practice and I agree with Synastren that any company that's gonna blatantly do that can go die in a fire. To put it another way, I personally kind of equate it to pay-2-win style games with basically mandatory microtransactions and loot crates and poo poo. Shady loving business practice that shows they give no fucks about anything other than money.

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It's been a bit since I read that linked article, but IIRC, they have shady, predatory business practices where they were basically paying people off to write good reviews, and then when they didn't get a good review from a guy and couldn't buy him out, they basically sued him into oblivion and bought out his blog and turned it into the Casper Fanwank Blog. Regardless of how good their beds are, that's a loving lovely practice and I agree with Synastren that any company that's gonna blatantly do that can go die in a fire. To put it another way, I personally kind of equate it to pay-2-win style games with basically mandatory microtransactions and loot crates and poo poo. Shady loving business practice that shows they give no fucks about anything other than money.

Unless I completely read it wrong, which is entirely possible.

Completely agreed!

I tried the Purple mattress today and it felt so amazing, but I'm definitely seeing lots of reviews from people who start to have problems with the mattress after the 100-day trial--either the mattress starts to sag and they have to send it back under the warranty, or they mention back pain after having an amazing initial few months of sleep.

The Mattress Firm where I tried the Purple had four firmness settings. My favorite by far was the Purple 1, the firmest setting. I don't see this on the Purple website. Is it basically the original Purple?

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