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Those new 64 core EPYCs are clocked in at 2.35 GHz inside a new supercomputer. That seems good, I guess? At Least comparing them all on wikipedia, and seeing how higher core count usually means less GHz. I'm not good at computers, but I'm thirsty for Zen 2 news.

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Well, seeing as how the only Thunderbolt-capable AMD systems are desktops with add-in boards, the answer to that would be "depends on what PCIe slot you plug the Thunderbolt card into", now, wouldn't it?

It might be because I haven't had my coffee yet, but do you have a link to any of those boards? I didn't think any AMD mobos had come out with those headers

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It might be because I haven't had my coffee yet, but do you have a link to any of those boards? I didn't think any AMD mobos had come out with those headers

I think some... creative installation... is required to get TB 3 add-in cards working.

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It might be because I haven't had my coffee yet, but do you have a link to any of those boards? I didn't think any AMD mobos had come out with those headers

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CoolIT/Cray are showing off a liquid cooled server that can pack 512 cores in 1U, using the coming 64c Epyc parts. Sweet lord.



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CoolIT/Cray are showing off a liquid cooled server that can pack 512 cores in 1U, using the coming 64c Epyc parts. Sweet lord.



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I love this, 1024 Threads. drat, we can run our entire datacentre in 2U compute now. Not counting the geo-replication.
An NVMe SAN underneath and most companies can run their entire IT infrastructure in 8U or something.

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I love this, 1024 Threads. drat, we can run our entire datacentre in 2U compute now. Not counting the geo-replication.
An NVMe SAN underneath and most companies can run their entire IT infrastructure in 8U or something.

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You could probably put an 8U 'faceplate replacement' radiator + fans + pump and cool that thing pretty effectively. I suspect this product is really aimed at datacenters that already use direct water/liquid cooling and can plug in racks of these things without taking any sort of extra cost hit.

Don't forget that being seen as having innovative 'halo' products that make headlines without being practical is a successful business model for selling products that are otherwise the same as your competitors.

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You could probably put an 8U 'faceplate replacement' radiator + fans + pump and cool that thing pretty effectively.

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I suspect this product is really aimed at datacenters that already use direct water/liquid cooling and can plug in racks of these things without taking any sort of extra cost hit.

Co-branding by Cray, and elsewhere they say "Purpose built for HPC, AI and Advanced Analytic workloads" so yeah.

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Don't forget that being seen as having innovative 'halo' products that make headlines without being practical is a successful business model for selling products that are otherwise the same as your competitors.

Oh most def, and it's not like HPC is a stranger to exotic cooling methods. It might be halo but I don't think it's impractical. I was just throwing some good-natured shade at the "replace your entire colo with a 2U" thing. Regular servers don't need the sheer nude beautiful black women density of that thing. Which is pretty amazing, and I think that was the real point Shiny Pants was going for.

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So after the single most frustrating experience connecting wires ever I finally got my Ryzen 2700x up and running last night to do some benchmarks. Testing AC Odyssey, Shadow of the Tomb Raider and Heaven the core temp got up to about 70-75C under load, using just the system fans and basic XAMP profile from the motherboard. Is that a pretty safe gaming temperature for this CPU, assuming I’m not going to be at that level 24/7? It is a tad hotter from where my i5 operated, even with the hefty wraith prism heatsink that came with the chip. On the other hand if it’s business as usual then I’m not too worried. Weirdly enough my 2080 barely reached above 51C on Odyssey, that game really is CPU limited to heck! There’s also a “gamer profile” setting in the BIOS that as far as I can tell just spins the fans up to 10 million RPM.

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The 2700X has an offset of 10°C applied to temperature reporting by default, so depending on what software you're using (some are aware of the offset and may display the corrected actual temperature), it could be 60-65°C instead.

The AMD website says "Max Temps: 85°C" so even 70-75 is completely safe and the CPU should be able to run that 24/7. The Wraith Prism is good to run maximum "boost" clocks but it's going to be slightly hotter/louder than a bigger third party cooler would.

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I’m just using the free version of CAM for system temps, I don’t know if they already account for the offset but that’s good to know. I was thinking that a 2700x would finally be the breakthrough that let me set Volumetric Clouds in Odyssey to Ultra but lol nope, still like a 20fps drop in open areas for no reason. drat your impossible future tech Ubisoft!

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I’m just using the free version of CAM for system temps, I don’t know if they already account for the offset but that’s good to know. I was thinking that a 2700x would finally be the breakthrough that let me set Volumetric Clouds in Odyssey to Ultra but lol nope, still like a 20fps drop in open areas for no reason. drat your impossible future tech Ubisoft!

Settings like this are normally intended to "future proof" a game so it still looks good in 5-10 years. It was a really popular 10 years ago. People still remember Crysis for being a system killer.

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Odyssey was recently cracked, I wonder if it’s like Origins where Ubi’s high anxiety about pirates causes them to run so many layers of DRM that there’s a noticeable performance hit.

But then again Origins was as absurd as processing all instructions through a VM running simultaneously and a 2700x should have seen limited damage from that. It’s probably just unoptimized.

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Odyssey just creates insane overhead on the CPU, more than any other game I've seen. It also doesn't scale down particularly well so that you'll typically see a big performance increase going from the highest to second highest setting in any one category (volumetric clouds, shadows, AO, etc.) but then little gains beyond that, and at Medium everything starts to look like crap anyway. I was benchmarking it along Shadow of the Tomb Raider last night and that game has a way smoother gradient while still being mostly GPU-bound.

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Settings like this are normally intended to "future proof" a game so it still looks good in 5-10 years. It was a really popular 10 years ago. People still remember Crysis for being a system killer.

I dunno, the real question is how much actual difference you see between the max setting and "normal high". In a lot of games Ultra is more about turning off various optimizations, not doing much to add perceptible fidelity.

Volumetric clouds OTOH would be one of the ones where I'd be expecting Ultra to have real improvement.

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I dunno, the real question is how much actual difference you see between the max setting and "normal high". In a lot of games Ultra is more about turning off various optimizations, not doing much to add perceptible fidelity.

Volumetric clouds OTOH would be one of the ones where I'd be expecting Ultra to have real improvement.

It's incredibly subtle going from Ultra to Very High, and even further down to High unless you spend all your time looking at the skybox. The only reason to set Volumetric Clouds to Ultra in AC Odyssey is if you want 20% less FPS for the privilege of saying you can do it with your big dick rig.

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It's incredibly subtle going from Ultra to Very High, and even further down to High unless you spend all your time looking at the skybox. The only reason to set Volumetric Clouds to Ultra in AC Odyssey is if you want 20% less FPS for the privilege of saying you can do it with your big dick rig.

I mean ain’t that the only reason we build these machines, so we can repeatedly say big dick rig.

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I guess that means PCIe extenders are dead now.

Linus has just broken out into a cold sweat in Burnaby and he doesn't know why.

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