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DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


If you ever wondered what might happen to Bryan Singer, Fox are currently trying to push him for best director for BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY. They've been sending out 'For Your Consideration' packets.

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He should be exempt from awards due to not even directing the whole drat thing. idc if it was like 70 or 80% done or whatever when he bailed and the studio said gently caress that and finished it without him.

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If you ever wondered what might happen to Bryan Singer, Fox are currently trying to push him for best director for BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY. They've been sending out 'For Your Consideration' packets.

Yeah that movie that everyone says sucks except for the lead, is already getting Selma'd despite no real Oscar buzz, and during which Singer was apparently fired for just not showing up to work

Who does Singer have tapes of I wonder

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CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013



I’m feeling like Fox wants the controversy to blow over so they’re going about like everything’s fine.

No way in hell is the movie getting a nom and they know it. Just pretend it is and everyone will forget about it.

Maybe.

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Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!


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Yeah that movie that everyone says sucks except for the lead, is already getting Selma'd despite no real Oscar buzz, and during which Singer was apparently fired for just not showing up to work

Who does Singer have tapes of I wonder

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Kevin Spacey, definitely.

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I mean

Kevin Spacey, definitely.

That's a really bad joke, it's also almost certainly true, but still in poor taste.

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Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!


I wasn’t completely joking. Spacey and Singer have long been joined at the hip, and Spacey was a regular at Singers’ house parties, if the rumors are to be believed. I do believe that there is a possibility that if Spacey did bad poo poo, and Singer did bad poo poo, then there were opportunities for them to do bad poo poo together in an environment where they had authority..

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I wasn’t completely joking. Spacey and Singer have long been joined at the hip, and Spacey was a regular at Singers’ house parties, if the rumors are to be believed. I do believe that there is a possibility that if Spacey did bad poo poo, and Singer did bad poo poo, then there were opportunities for them to do bad poo poo together in an environment where they had authority..

Actually I'm suppressing evidence so that Ian McKellen isn't implicated, ruining LOTR

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Yeah that movie that everyone says sucks except for the lead, is already getting Selma'd despite no real Oscar buzz, and during which Singer was apparently fired for just not showing up to work
It seems unkind and maybe a bit offensive to compare this film to Selma

I didn't terribly enjoy Selma but come on

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He should be exempt from awards due to not even directing the whole drat thing. idc if it was like 70 or 80% done or whatever when he bailed and the studio said gently caress that and finished it without him.

My understanding was that the movie was like 90% done and that Singer came back to do the edit. If, and that's a big If, Fox were ever pressed on it then they would claim that Dexter Fletcher just did minor shots, much like WB claimed with JUSTICE LEAGUE and Whedon.

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My understanding was that the movie was like 90% done and that Singer came back to do the edit. If, and that's a big If, Fox were ever pressed on it then they would claim that Dexter Fletcher just did minor shots, much like WB claimed with JUSTICE LEAGUE and Whedon.

Plus, don't most movies have secondary shooting units with other people directing the action, like even if Snyder hadn't left the film, there'd be chunks of it shot where he wasn't on set?

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Plus, don't most movies have secondary shooting units with other people directing the action, like even if Snyder hadn't left the film, there'd be chunks of it shot where he wasn't on set?

Depends on the filmmaker. Snyder strikes me as the kind of guy who, having built a considerable amount of his career on hyper-stylized, CGI-heavy action movies, wouldn't require or be none too fond of a second unit. Edgar Wright is another filmmaker who is hella anti-2nd unit, which is my pet theory over why he really jumped shark on fat naked girl videos Ant-Man.

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Plus, don't most movies have secondary shooting units with other people directing the action, like even if Snyder hadn't left the film, there'd be chunks of it shot where he wasn't on set?

Generally depends on his approach. There are some Directors who will very much oversee second unit work. Sometimes they'll shoot minor insert shots and the such but in the case of something like THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING, the whole fight at the end with Aragon (And one of the big crowd-pleasing parts) was done by the second unit because Jackson literally didn't have time.

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Plus, don't most movies have secondary shooting units with other people directing the action, like even if Snyder hadn't left the film, there'd be chunks of it shot where he wasn't on set?

It depends on the exact requirements of the movie, but yes. While scenes with dialogue and action are generally all done with the director, B-roll footage (like establishing shots and other less important basic work) are often done by a different team to let the director work on the meat of the movie. You usually see movies without a B unit when the director has an extremely specific vision for what they're trying to accomplish and don't want to let other people control the footage.

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Generally depends on his approach. There are some Directors who will very much oversee second unit work. Sometimes they'll shoot minor insert shots and the such but in the case of something like THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING, the whole fight at the end with Aragon (And one of the big crowd-pleasing parts) was done by the second unit because Jackson literally didn't have time.

The whole truck chase in Raiders of the Lost Ark was shot by the second unit

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Second unit directors are invariably some long-time guy who was worked for the director before and has spent enough time on set that his natural inclinations in shot choice and framing is going to be similar enough to the director’s as to make it smooth. Like, JUSTICE LEAGUE’s second unit was directed by Damon Caro, who has been doing stunts for Snyder since Dawn of the Dead and has worked pretty much every show Snyder’s done since.

And Singer evidently did return to Bohemian Rhapsody to do post work on it (read: he came back because the heat around Spacey and Spacey associates had died down), so he still, between pre, shooting, and post, really did a much larger percentage of the movie and thus would easily win any arbitration that would be made. The guy who came in probably got a massive paycheck to save the picture (at least if his agent is any good), did his couple of weeks, and then was like “cool” when Singer showed up to actually finish the picture and got the hell out of there as fast as possible. This is honestly probably the best sequence of events for this guy, since generally any movie that has such late in the day seismic changes turns out to be awful, and the less his name is loosely associated with it, the better. People he takes meetings with will know, but they’ll look at “he showed up to save that movie” as a positive. I imagine being a scab director for when one inevitably goes insane/gets arrested/dies/fucks the studio chief’s S.O. would be a pretty good racket if it happened even relatively often enough.

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It seems unkind and maybe a bit offensive to compare this film to Selma

I didn't terribly enjoy Selma but come on

Noting that these are different movies, by "Selma'd" I mean there is a large media pushback on the historical narrative being presented in the film. In Selma's case it was probably tantamount to a conspiracy to keep it out of the Oscar race, while Bohemian Rhapsody has essentially been accused of being Freddy Mercury fanfic.

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Noting that these are different movies, by "Selma'd" I mean there is a large media pushback on the historical narrative being presented in the film. In Selma's case it was probably tantamount to a conspiracy to keep it out of the Oscar race, while julie strain nude pics Bohemian Rhapsody has essentially been accused of being Freddy Mercury fanfic.

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I'm not saying it didn't deserve an Oscar or 8, I'm just saying if you're going to start dismissing films from consideration because of factual inaccuracies you are opening a loving Pandora's box.

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Noting that these are different movies, by "Selma'd" I mean there is a large media pushback on the historical narrative being presented in the film. In Selma's case it was probably tantamount to a conspiracy to keep it out of the Oscar race, while Bohemian Rhapsody has essentially been accused of being Freddy Mercury fanfic.

I remember people being upset about its portrayal of LBJ, but I don't recall it ever being used as an excuse for not nominating it for Oscars.

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I remember people being upset about its portrayal of LBJ, but I don't recall it ever being used as an excuse for not nominating it for Oscars.

Mostly the media pushback for Selma that I recall was people upset that Selma tips for teen writers wasn't nominated, since it was an Important Movie that was clearly good, and in no way an amateurish disjointed slog with stylistic choices that constantly undercut its own themes.

As an amateurish disjointed slog I take offense!

As the Weinsteins became prominent, they helped transform Oscar season into an all-out naked teens gone wild political campaign. It was always political, of course, but since the Weinsteins, Oscars now have candidates that hold campaign events for industry people. In that atmosphere, "free family rape porn Selma vilified LBJ!" becomes the film industry version of Hillary's emails.

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