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Fun fact: “third world” as a term derives from the Cold War, where “first world” referred to the capitalist West, “second world” referred to countries in the Soviet Communist sphere, and the “third world” was anything unaffiliated with either.

It’s come to imply “developing” in a socioeconomic sense, but didn’t have to mean this historically. Wakanda was, until recently, a hermit kingdom that barely participated in diplomacy or trade...so “third world” would technically fit. Though they’re plainly rich as gently caress, and I guess capitalist? The basis for their economy confuses me because their most valuable resource they also refuse to trade.

Wakanda makes no loving sense at all.

It does look nice, though.

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Is that chick in the tight pants that all the queers in the avengers ignore going to be in this one?

Hulk? Probably.

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Jul 27, 2007



Here's my (hopeful, but likely false) predictions:

1. Thanos beats the Peter Parker to death. I'm talking Otter smashing a Mussel.
2. Thanos snaps Captain America's neck just like in that one comic.
3. Falcon is relevant.

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I'm going to go bold with my prediction and say that Earth is truly and completely hosed at the end of the film and is the cliffhanger. The Avengers have to go into space to figure out what happens next.

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My prediction/hope is that Thanos fucks everyone up, re-writes the universe, and Avengers 4 is an alternate present where Thanos is God-Emperor, that only a few people are aware of and have to put right. Like Stargate did every 3 loving episodes it seemed like.

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Wasn't this movie a two-parter at one point in its life, or is it still a two-parter and they're just not advertising it as such?

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Wasn't this movie a two-parter at one point in its life, or is it still a two-parter and they're just not advertising it as such?

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Will he finally get his god damned power converters?

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I just want Captain Marvel to show up at the end and be the only person who can fight back against Thanos.

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My prediction is that Jeremy Renner takes a laser to the face and we get some Hawkeye movies based on the Matt Fraction run where hawkguy is played by someone cool and charismatic.

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I'm going to go bold with my prediction and say that Earth is truly and completely hosed at the end of the film and is the cliffhanger. The Avengers have to go into space to figure out what happens next.

Nah, they can't risk alienating anyone who might miss this episode. Nothing will change at the end of this one, like in every other one of the 18 prior movies.

Or, even if it does, they'll ignore it for Ant Man Five.

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Nah, they can't risk alienating anyone who might miss this episode. Nothing will change at the end of this one, like in every other one of the 18 prior movies.

Or, even if it does, they'll ignore it for Ant Man Five.

Given Infinity War and its UNTITLED SEQUEL are supposed to book end this first era of the MCU films, I would be shocked if it maintained the status quo. We're going to see some characters disappear to make room for other properties and to let the actors/actresses move onto other productions.

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And once they run out of characters we're going to get a literal cinematic universe ending reboot with new actors as if it's an all new #1 issue.

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And once they run out of characters we're going to get a literal cinematic universe ending reboot with new actors as if it's an all new #1 issue.

Praising the MCU's rote storytelling as a successful formula irks me somewhat but one thing I will say is legitimately impressive is that they simply took the blueprint of what sold comic books and translated it to the screen. Every laughable marketing stunt up to holofoil is present and accounted for and people absolutely lap it up. It seems so obvious that it would work.

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Given Infinity War and its UNTITLED SEQUEL are supposed to book end this first era of the MCU films, I would be shocked if it maintained the status quo. We're going to see some characters disappear to make room for other properties and to let the actors/actresses move onto other productions.

Are you generally this susceptible to marketing? Because we're 18 movies in, and many of them have been pitched as 'game changing'

Yet the game has not changed.

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Are you generally this susceptible to marketing? Because we're 18 movies in, and many of them have been pitched as 'game changing'

Yet the game has not changed.

Listen, buddy, don't crush my hopes that Thanos will rip off the "Iron Spider" legs and beat Peter Parker in a fashion not unlike how my dad would beat me with jumper cables. Only Thanos is cool and doing it for a greater purpose.

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Death total: 12

Car Death total: 10,000,000

Thanos' goal is to destroy every car in the universe.

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According to click bait articles this movie has a running time of 156 minutes and over 40 names characters. I'm looking forward to Rocket Raccoon's allocation of 3 minutes and 54 seconds.

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Are you generally this susceptible to marketing? Because we're 18 movies in, and many of them have been pitched as 'game changing'

Yet the game has not changed.

This is so demonstrably untrue I don't know why you bothered saying it. Unless you seriously think the MCU is in the exact status quo it was at the end of Iron Man 1.

Also, this was planned from the start, and you don't kill off your main character and blow up the planet half way through a TV series. You save that poo poo for the finale.

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This is so demonstrably untrue I don't know why you bothered saying it. Unless you seriously think the MCU is in the exact status quo it was at the end of Iron Man 1.

It is. The only thing that's changed is that a big group of corporate vigilantes formed, and then dissolved. Also, two New Yorkers had to stay overnight at a hospital after aliens invaded New York.

Post-World War II history turns out to have been controlled by Nazi Illuminati, and this is immediately forgotten.

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My prediction is that Jeremy Renner takes a laser to the face and we get some Hawkeye movies based on the Matt Fraction run where hawkguy is played by someone cool and charismatic.

I think Marvel Studios' only casting missteps have been Iron Fist and Hawkeye. I loved Fraction's "Hawkguy" series, and always thought Alan Tudyk (who was even a Joss Whedon veteran) would have been the perfect casting choice. Renner did his best with what he had (which wasn't much), but was based on bland, unlikable Ultimate Hawkeye, the black-ops agent.

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According to click bait articles this movie has a running time of 156 minutes and over 40 names characters. I'm looking forward to Rocket Raccoon's allocation of 3 minutes and 54 seconds.

Makes sense if it was originally two movies.

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Makes sense if it was originally two movies.

It was always going to be two movies. The reason it's "UNTITLED AVENGERS SEQUEL" is, according to the Russo Brothers, that announcing the title would spoil Infinity War. To which I say, lol.

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According to click bait articles this movie has a running time of 156 minutes and over 40 names characters. I'm looking forward to Rocket Raccoon's allocation of 3 minutes and 54 seconds.

You're probably not too far off; I believe either Karen Gillan or Zoe Saldana said the Guardians' roles in Infinity War are pretty small. Guessing they'll serve as exposition droppers to the Earth heroes and then take part in the big fight at the end.

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Nebula is also an easy character to kill off early to show how ~*dangerous*~ Thanos is.

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Unlike me, many of you have accepted the situation of your imprisonment, and will die here like rotten cabbages.

Do you think the character deaths are likely to be story driven, I suppose I also mean accurate to the comics, or instead quite likely to be influenced by the casting politics/financing? As in I can't really see the point in keeping a death from the comics when none of them meant anything much anyway with all the characters reappearing nearly immediately, when you also have a bunch of aging, expensive actors on a roster alongside a bunch of younger cheaper alternatives able to benefit from the audience groundwork laid by said old timers?

Like should we just order the actors by salary/profit ratio to determine who's gonna die? If so, aside from the obvious iron man and captain america, black widow looks done, Scarlett Johansson, whilst not old, must be commanding a fair old salary now and her recent non-MCU movies have made bugger all money. I'd cite wonderwoman's success as maybe working in her favour but equally they have captain marvel waiting in the wings.

In the same way Nebula seems like one to keep on, given the probable lowish relative salary of Karen Gillan versus her age and maybe recent perceived popularity from jumanji?

Or none of this?

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It was always going to be two movies. The reason it's "UNTITLED AVENGERS SEQUEL" is, according to the Russo Brothers, that announcing the title would spoil Infinity War. To which I say, lol.

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Like should we just order the actors by salary/profit ratio to determine who's gonna die?

Hopefully "all of the characters".

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It was always going to be two movies. The reason it's "UNTITLED AVENGERS SEQUEL" is, according to the Russo Brothers, that announcing the title would spoil Infinity War. To which I say, lol.

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This is so demonstrably untrue I don't know why you bothered saying it. Unless you seriously think the MCU is in the exact status quo it was at the end of Iron Man 1.

Also, this was planned from the start, and you don't kill off your main character and blow up the planet half way through a TV series. You save that poo poo for the finale.

"I've invented infinite free energy"
*world remains the same*

"Ancient gods were actually aliens"
*society doesn't change*

"Nazis have been running the world forever"
*is never mentioned again*

"Holy poo poo, an evil robot built by Tony Stark is lifting a city with the intention of dropping it and wiping out humanity"
*some legislation is forgotten before the movie that introduced it is over. Stark industries remains unchanged.*

"I, Tony Stark, am destroying all my remote piloted suits"
*begins next movie with an army of remote piloted suits.*

"Shield is gone, we can no longer depend on..."
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Are you generally this susceptible to marketing? Because we're 18 movies in, and many of them have been pitched as 'game changing'

Yet the game has not changed.

I am susceptible to the words of the studio head and the directors of these films who have quite explicitly stated that Infinity War will serve as a way for a lot of their primary stars to exit the franchise so they can develop new folks (just like in the comics). That means whether they die or retire a lot of folks who have been in a lot of these films won't be in them after Infinity War/UNTITLED SEQUEL.

Did you suddenly expect the MCU to not follow the conventions of comic books? It's probably one of their greatest strengths is their consistent ability to capture the feel of the comics in live motion picture format. Some are better than others, there have certainly been compelling genre works inside that, but why would you expect a comic franchise to not be rooted in "good guys win, bad guys lose, life usually resets more or less".

Even huge comic arcs have worked like this industry wide. Lots of status quo until we need to fix or reset something then we have a huge event that removes some folks, brings other characters in. The idea that Infinity War will act like just about every multi-title multiverse event isn't that big of a stretch and is in fact the more likely outcome than "well we had a big event to clear out the roster but NOPE LOL WE DIDN'T"

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The Untitled Avengers Sequel was originally Infinity War Part 2 but in the three years since that announcement the whole “dividing a movie into two parts” has become poison so they had to adjust.

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Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!


I still think it’s going to essentially be a two-parter albeit not in name. They’re filming them at the same time so they can take advantage of the huge cast. If it was just going to go back to the status quo for the follow-up, I doubt that would be as pressing. Dropping the “part 2” element just feels like a marketing move to me. Now they’re free to call it Avengers: Heroes Reborn or Infinity Crusade or whatever.

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I still think it’s going to essentially be a two-parter albeit not in name. They’re filming them at the same time so they can take advantage of the huge cast. If it was just going to go back to the status quo for the follow-up, I doubt that would be as pressing. Dropping the “part 2” element just feels like a marketing move to me. Now they’re free to call it Avengers: Heroes Reborn or Infinity Crusade or whatever.

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I am susceptible to the words of the studio head and the directors of these films who have quite explicitly stated that Infinity War will serve as a way for a lot of their primary stars to exit the franchise so they can develop new folks (just like in the comics). That means whether they die or retire a lot of folks who have been in a lot of these films won't be in them after Infinity War/UNTITLED SEQUEL.

Did you suddenly expect the MCU to not follow the conventions of comic books? It's probably one of their greatest strengths is their consistent ability to capture the feel of the comics in live motion picture format. Some are better than others, there have certainly been compelling genre works inside that, but why would you expect a comic franchise to not be rooted in "good guys win, bad guys lose, life usually resets more or less".

Even huge comic arcs have worked like this industry wide. Lots of status quo until we need to fix or reset something then we have a huge event that removes some folks, brings other characters in. The idea that Infinity War will act like just about every multi-title multiverse event isn't that big of a stretch and is in fact the more likely outcome than

Kevin Feige also said that Winter Soldier was like a gritty 70s spy thriller

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"well we had a big event to clear out the roster but NOPE LOL WE DIDN'T"

Haven't a bunch of those big crossover events changed essentially nothing?

Like, I remember Dark Reign was supposed to invert the order or whatever, instead it lasted barely a year.

It's serialised entertainment. The thing that is happening right now is super important, right up until it isn't and they just start ignoring it.

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Oh I agree it’s probably just a marketing thing.

It's not "probably." The cake they cut at the wrap party for Avengers 4 had the Infinity Gauntlet and the Power Stones on it.

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