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The opener to Spectre really was something to see on the big screen, up there with some of the best openings in the whole series. I don't dislike the movie overall, but I don't think it ever topped that first 10 minutes.

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uma thurman sex scenes Moonraker also has the scene where Bond drives his Bondola through a square in Venice (?) and it makes a pigeon do a double-take.

As a kid I never understood that the pigeon did a double take. I thought it was just grooving out to the score.

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Moonraker is peak Roger Moore. It moves at probably the fastest pace of any of his films, and each scene is more ridiculous than the last. Its stupid, but its everything you want out of a Moore film. Also the villain looks like a regular sized Peter Dinklage.

The actual worst Moore movie is For Your Eyes Only, because it tries to sexy naked asian lesbians not to be a Moore film. Its way too serious! It would have been great for Dalton, however.

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The actual worst Moore movie is For Your Eyes Only, because it tries to my first sex teather not to be a Moore film. Its way too serious! It would have been great for Dalton, however.

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Something with the Moore movies though always feels so dated to me. Not because I was born after most of them were made but because, like, Our Man Flint and In Like Flint cover so much campy Moore movie caliber territory and did it like six years before Moore even took the role. It's like if that new Halloween movie they're making was intentionally modeled after Scary Movie.

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The actual worst Moore movie is For Your Eyes Only, because it tries to daz 3d nude models not to be a Moore film. Its way too serious! It would have been great for Dalton, however.

I'm not going to say it's bad, but I felt Live and Let Die was the one that was too serious. Bond almost getting shot in a back alley by drug dealers felt super out of place. Luckily the movie went more fantastical as it went long, but the stretch of the movie always feels weird to me.

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free skinny pussy pics Quantum of Solace had a rough behind the scenes development, but is pretty, has two of the best sequences in the series (the opening car chase and the opera scene are both phenomenal), and is already seeing a critical reevaluation the way OHMSS did. People mock its villain's plot, but a rich capitalist engineering a third world coup, with the tacit support of the CIA, in order to control their natural resources is something that real life Bond villains do, and is perfect for the grounded take they were going for when Craig first started. And Mr. Greene is a compelling villain, who gets one of the cruelest comeuppances in the series.

Mostly agree with this, except that opening car chase kinda sucks. I remember reading somewhere that they initially filmed three cars chasing Bond, per the script, but then cut it down to two in editing?

Also, this has probably been talked to death, but QoS is vastly improved if you watch it immediately after Casino Royale. Skyfall works real well as a standalone, though, and Spectre was just meh all around (with the exception of the Mexico City sequence)

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Mostly agree with this, except that opening car chase kinda sucks. I remember reading somewhere that they initially filmed three cars chasing Bond, per the script, but then cut it down to two in editing?

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I don't know that they'll ever go with a woman as Bond, but I have to imagine they'll look very closely at options other than "attractive white guy" when they replace Craig after this movie.

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Feb 13, 2012

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You know, I was sold on Idris Elba as Bond for a long time, but I think I've gone off him a bit lately because although he would be good, I feel like he'd be too similar to Craig (and partly because I'm a bit worn out on how he seems to be the only black British actor the Internet has ever heard of and fantasy cast him for everything). If you're going to have a black actor as James Bond, I think my first choice now would be David Oyelowo or Colin Salmon (though he might be too old).

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Elba is too old now as well, the time to cast him came and went. He'd be pushing 50 by the time his first Bond was released.

I'd love to see a shakeup of the formula though along those lines, I'd have no problem at all with a female Bond.

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I don't know that they'll ever go with a woman as Bond, but I have to imagine they'll look very closely at options other than "attractive white guy" when they replace Craig after this movie.

I seriously doubt it. Their first option was Tom Hiddleston til he blew it. Craig continues to be Bond because they still haven't found a suitable attractive white dude to replace him.

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I seriously doubt it. Their first option was Tom Hiddleston til he blew it. Craig continues to be Bond because they still haven't found a suitable attractive white dude to replace him.

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Out of curiosity, how did Hiddleston blow it?

Taylor Swift of all things. Bond folk don't want an actor who thinks is bigger than the role, and everything about the Swift and Hiddleston romance was a major publicity stunt circus, so off the list he went.

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Taylor Swift of all things. Bond folk don't want an actor who thinks is bigger than the role, and everything about the Swift and Hiddleston romance was a major publicity stunt circus, so off the list he went.

It's always been that way, to one degree or another. Cubby Broccoli toyed with the idea of casting Oliver Reed for birthday sex uptempo download On Her Majesty's Secret Service but ultimately decided against it because Reed already had an image, he was already a star on the rise (he'd been in natasha richardson nude pics Oliver! the previous year, for instance) and if they put him in a James Bond movie, they'd have had to try and overcome that image so people would see James Bond when they looked at him instead of Oliver Reed. (That's the official explanation, anyway. They probably just didn't want to have to put up with Oliver Reed when he was drunk, which was all the time.)

They haven't really cast anyone who was a known movie star beforehand, though. They weren't totally unknown quantities (other than Lazenby) but I think the biggest name pre-Bond actor was Roger Moore, and he was mainly known as a TV actor.

I'm not sure who the favourites are at the moment; the bookies liked James Norton, who was the star of a TV miniseries called statistics about teen drinking McMafia which I haven't seen but have heard was really underwhelming. If they break with tradition and go for an established star, I reckon it'd most likely be Tom Hardy or maybe Henry Cavill.

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They don't even have a director or script for the next movie, I imagine they're going to be focused more on that and they'll worry about casting in 2020.

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I'm not sure who the favourites are at the moment; the bookies liked James Norton, who was the star of a TV miniseries called black woman nude pic McMafia which I haven't seen but have heard was really underwhelming. If they break with tradition and go for an established star, I reckon it'd most likely be Tom Hardy or maybe Henry Cavill.

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It's always been that way, to one degree or another. Cubby Broccoli toyed with the idea of casting Oliver Reed for free streaming porn psp On Her Majesty's Secret Service but ultimately decided against it because Reed already had an image, he was already a star on the rise (he'd been in college hidden sex videos Oliver! the previous year, for instance) and if they put him in a James Bond movie, they'd have had to try and overcome that image so people would see James Bond when they looked at him instead of Oliver Reed. (That's the official explanation, anyway. They probably just didn't want to have to put up with Oliver Reed when he was drunk, which was all the time.)

They haven't really cast anyone who was a known movie star beforehand, though. They weren't totally unknown quantities (other than Lazenby) but I think the biggest name pre-Bond actor was Roger Moore, and he was mainly known as a TV actor.

Wasn't Brosnan well known? I thought Remington Steele was a huge hit

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Wasn't Brosnan well known? I thought Remington Steele was a huge hit

Yeah, Remington Steele made him a star; Brosnan was the original choice to replace Roger Moore but then NBC renewed the show for another year so he couldn't get out of his contract.

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Elba is too old now as well, the time to cast him came and went. He'd be pushing 50 by the time his first Bond was released.

I'd love to see a shakeup of the formula though along those lines, I'd have no problem at all with a female Bond.

Ian Fleming would roll in his grave if they cast a black Bond and he'd probably turn inside out if it was a woman. I don't see how you make Bond a woman without fundamentally altering the character, who is a "sexist misogynist dinosaur", at which point why not make a new character instead?

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Yeah, Remington Steele made him a star; Brosnan was the original choice to replace Roger Moore but then NBC renewed the show for another year so he couldn't get out of his contract.

Which led to like 5 years of a wait before he could accept again. But also is probably what gave us his classic performance in Mrs. Doubtfire.

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You know, I was sold on Idris Elba as Bond for a long time, but I think I've gone off him a bit lately because although he would be good, I feel like he'd be too similar to Craig (and partly because I'm a bit worn out on how he seems to be the only black British actor the Internet has ever heard of and fantasy cast him for everything). If you're going to have a black actor as James Bond, I think my first choice now would be David Oyelowo or Colin Salmon (though he might be too old).

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That's something that has staggered me for a while. They free videos rape porn know there's going to be another film sooner or later... but they keep half-arseing the script at the last minute as if they forgot to do their homework. They should have started writing before the previous movie even hit cinemas; it's not even as if they have to knock one out every two years any more.

Since Cubby Broccoli died, and more so than ever in the Craig era, it feels like too many people get to put ingredients into the blender, so it ends up with a bunch of fingertips mixed in.

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at which point why not make a new character instead?
Not to detail the thread, but I agree a new female secret agent franchise would be better. The only decent one I've seen was Nikita but to a chick dope enough to join James Bond and Ethan Hunt would be badass.

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Ian Fleming would roll in his grave if they cast a black Bond and he'd probably turn inside out if it was a woman. I don't see how you make Bond a woman without fundamentally altering the character, who is a "sexist misogynist dinosaur", at which point why not make a new character instead?

Because Bond means something. It's a legacy character at this point, and it has a very established cultural footprint to use as a launching point. So gently caress it, change the character, who cares. Let the character be something different for a while, not sure I see what the big deal would be.

Atomic Blonde is definitely a great Bond-like character but a movie like that will never get the press and international attention as an actual female Bond would.

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On an actual Bond note, I was in Venice last year and looked for the spot where Roger Moore drove his hover-gondola out of the water and up into St Mark's Square. Sad to report, it's physically impossible - there are steps running up the quayside, but no ramps (and on a re-viewing I realised just how carefully they framed the shot so you couldn't really see what was underneath the boat; they built a ramp for it). A Roger Moore Bond movie lied to me! I feel like part of my childhood has been murdered...

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Growing up, I've watched Bond movies as they came out (starting with TWINE), but I missed Casino Royale. I want to watch the older ones, though I'm a bit overwhelmed with the volume of movies.

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"For Your Eyes Only" is a good song except it needed a singer with a stronger voice than Sheena Easton to sing it. They should've got Shirley Bassey to sing that one instead of "Moonraker" (which I think is the least of the three she did for the series).

BIll Conti was going to get Donna Summer to sign it, originally. That would have been something.

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