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Aug 19, 2003



I wanna see a release of the OT on Blu-ray that places all 10+ different versions on the same disc via seamless branching and randomly picks a different one to play each time you put in the disc. That'll gently caress with Star Wars nerds real good.

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I wanna see a release of the OT on Blu-ray that places all 10+ different versions on the same disc via seamless branching and randomly picks a different one to play each time you put in the disc. That'll gently caress with Star Wars nerds real good.

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Honestly I really wouldn't mind them pulling a Blade Runner and putting all of the major cuts (pre-97, 97, 2004, 2011) in one big box set. Half the reason to preserve the originals is historical importance, and that argument still basically applies for any of the pre-2011 versions at this point.

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I wonder if seamless brancing exists in the VOD world, or if they just store however many versions needed as it's negligible to do so.

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I wonder if seamless brancing exists in the VOD world, or if they just store however many versions needed as it's negligible to do so.

The latter, with each cut as a different digital SKU. The number of titles for which branching would be desirable is not worth the developer resources needed to implement it.

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I'd love to see the various reactions to a release of the real original OT, with the huge matte lines and the vaseline under the scooters and all that. Yea 30 and 40 something nerds would be fine with that but there are just as many who have no desire for any of that stuff.

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The latter, with each cut as a different digital SKU. The number of titles for which branching would be desirable is not worth the developer resources needed to implement it.

Blade Runner obsessives gonna be out of a whole load of cash!

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Nov 6, 2008

Well, it's alright to borrow from each other. What we must never do is borrow from ourselves.


I've felt it's a bit absurd how the OT has had such a slapdash video history compared to other franchises.

Fox's Alien Blu-ray set is a thing of beauty. All four films with reference quality remasters, multiple audio options, commentaries, branched cuts, and every possible archival supplement included.

Meanwhile, even the 9-disc Star Wars set omits obvious stuff like trailers or even the feature-length making-of on the DVD. Didn't even include From Star Wars to Jedi. It's just ridiculous because it's not like there's budgetary limits. And then you see labels like Indicator, Arrow, and Scream Factory doing stuff like four cuts of a semi-obscure horror movie with ten hours of extras.


It's not even like a restoration of the original cuts would be a huge problem. Criterion was able to justify a 2K restoration of loving Heaven's Gate from 35mm color separations.

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Get yourself the Star Wars Silver Screen edition which keeps all the 70s color timings and poo poo. Looks great.

Image is a little soft sometimes but it's a small price to pay.

I grew up with the THX "Faces" VHS release and the Special Editions not long after, so I've never had a huge issue with Lucas's changes to the OT (aside from the awful blu-ray release stuff like Obi-Wan's yell), but earlier this year I shelled out $90 for the blu-ray editions of Harmy's Despecialized. They're a great set and they come bundled with just about every Star Wars documentary imaginable, including a bunch of contemporary docs and tv specials that are fascinating snapshots of the fandom before it became an embarrassing toxic mess. I highly recommend them. I'd link the store I bought them from, but I'm not sure if they technically count as .You can find them with a cursory google search.


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I grew up with the THX "Faces" VHS release and the Special Editions not long after, so I've never had a huge issue with Lucas's changes to the OT (aside from the awful blu-ray release stuff like Obi-Wan's yell), but earlier this year I shelled out $90 for the blu-ray editions of Harmy's Despecialized. They're a great set and they come bundled with just about every Star Wars documentary imaginable, including a bunch of contemporary docs and tv specials that are fascinating snapshots of the fandom before it became an embarrassing toxic mess. I highly recommend them. I'd link the store I bought them from, but I'm not sure if they technically count as .You can find them with a cursory google search.




It's kind of shameful that the official releases of a major franchise owned now by two different (or one different, I guess?) media conglomerates are totally out classed by a bunch of bootlegs.

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Okay, what do you think is more believable?

That Disney would release the Unaltered Trilogy as part of the 'Complete Saga' release post-Ep 9, including both Rouge One and Solo. With them breaking up the set on a yearly basis, so the following year would be the 'budget' release of just the numbered episodes, then the trilogies in their own distinct packaging, then each of the movies piecemeal.

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That Disney would instead release each episode on a yearly (or bi-yearly) basis in a ridiculously lavish box set. The unaltered trilogy, the theatrical Special Editions, 2000's DVD and Bluray alterations as branching paths. With pretty much every special feature and every supplemental additions they can conceivably add over a number of discs. Pretty much each movie being the equivalent to the LotR Extended Edition box set. Maybe even a couple feelies to keep the value up. This would command a premium price, pretty much the equivalent of purchasing either of the trilogy sets now. Barebones releases wouldn't come out until well after, likely in time for a new series of Star Wars films.

Also, I can't imagine Disney doing anything but a theatrical release of the unaltered trilogy first. With the right kind of a marketing blitz, I can't help but imagine Disney making even the most apathetic members of the public excited about a 'new' Star Wars even ("available for the first time in over 20 years"). It could act as a yearly stop gap for whatever is happening after Episode 9 and whatever comes afterwards.

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Nov 6, 2008

Well, it's alright to borrow from each other. What we must never do is borrow from ourselves.


They're on eBay. One seller is even using Criterion cases.

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If you don't need them to be on actual discs, just google them and download them for free. I'm gonna guess the people selling them are just assholes profiting off other peoples work.

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According to the site they say you have to have the Blu Ray copies to buy this one, whatever that means. Could be a legal thing or they could be like “gimme pics bitch” which hopefully you have a friend handy who owns those wretched things.

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According to the site they say you have to have the Blu Ray copies to buy this one, whatever that means. Could be a legal thing or they could be like “gimme pics bitch” which hopefully you have a friend handy who owns those wretched things.

I mean it’s still illegal because it’s the distribution that is the problem, not whether or not the recipient legally owns a copy.

Having looked around at the community itself, I can tell you that it’s just an ethical standard of the community with no otherwise legal basis.

Of course an individual trafficking in these things could actually ask and refuse to sell if you couldn’t provide proof of purchase... But that doesn’t make it any less illegal for them to distribute them even if they literally were present to watch you purchase the legal Blu-rays.

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Okay, what do you think is more believable?

That Disney would release the Unaltered Trilogy as part of the 'Complete Saga' release post-Ep 9, including both Rouge One and Solo. With them breaking up the set on a yearly basis, so the following year would be the 'budget' release of just the numbered episodes, then the trilogies in their own distinct packaging, then each of the movies piecemeal.

-Or-

That Disney would instead release each episode on a yearly (or bi-yearly) basis in a ridiculously lavish box set. The unaltered trilogy, the theatrical Special Editions, 2000's DVD and Bluray alterations as branching paths. With pretty much every special feature and every supplemental additions they can conceivably add over a number of discs. Pretty much each movie being the equivalent to the LotR Extended Edition box set. Maybe even a couple feelies to keep the value up. This would command a premium price, pretty much the equivalent of purchasing either of the trilogy sets now. Barebones releases wouldn't come out until well after, likely in time for a new series of Star Wars films.

Also, I can't imagine Disney doing anything but a theatrical release of the unaltered trilogy first. With the right kind of a marketing blitz, I can't help but imagine Disney making even the most apathetic members of the public excited about a 'new' Star Wars even ("available for the first time in over 20 years"). It could act as a yearly stop gap for whatever is happening after Episode 9 and whatever comes afterwards.

Kathleen Kennedy is on record as saying that they aren't doing anything with the unaltered original trilogy, it's the Special Editions or nothing. The 4K remaster of the first movie that Gareth Edwards saw at ILM when he was making Rogue One has been confirmed to be the Special Edition.

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Kathleen Kennedy is on record as saying that they aren't doing anything with the unaltered original trilogy, it's the Special Editions or nothing. The 4K remaster of the first movie that Gareth Edwards saw at ILM when he was making Rogue One has been confirmed to be the Special Edition.

I couldn't find any source where she says that definitively. There's a really bad interview where she's asked a really bad question that could be interpreted as "will you make any future changes to the films." It's really ambiguous.

That being said, I'm not going to be surprised either way. But given that there's a large fan-base that would want this, and given that Disney will own Star Wars completely, I could see it happening if they think there's enough money to be made. After all, we got the laserdisc rips released on DVD 14 years ago. It's not unprecedented.

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