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Sep 11, 2001



Disappointed that episode 6 didn't have this scene:

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Jul 28, 2008

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I just love that they totally went for it and straight up killed Hitler. Not only that they tied it into one of the themes of the show where "killing someone does little, but saving someone can make a difference".

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Eh, it was probably a stand in with a stick on 'stache.

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Eh, it was probably a stand in with a stick on 'stache.

They showed a newspaper that said basically "Hitler Dead! Himmler Fuhrer!"

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So are we going to end up with Hannah being Cole's mom? She's going back just far enough.

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So are we going to end up with Hannah being Cole's mom? She's going back just far enough.

Don't be silly.



Deacon is clearly going to be Cole's mother.

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His head is just a little cut off, that won't stop Deacon.

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So are we going to end up with Hannah being Cole's mom? She's going back just far enough.

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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



The Hannah murder montage was pretty messed up.

Maester Luwin was dropping some sick burns against Olivia. "We've already covered ourselves in oil."

So when was that scene in episode 9 with the family drinking some scotch by the fireplace? I was a little confused by that one.

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His head is just a little cut off, that won't stop Deacon.

He's come back from worse!

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I do believe I may have shit my pants. I hope this accident was worth it for Lowtax' spine.


Not even done with the episode but daughters is drat good

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Dec 2, 2005



Always figured it'd be Jennifer but I can live with this.

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So when was that scene in episode 9 with the family drinking some scotch by the fireplace? I was a little confused by that one.

It looks like what happened is that after the events of the airport Cole and Jones went back to sometime before 2018.

The only thing that bugged me with this reveal is that Hannah sure aged a lot in less than 9 years.


Anyway, so with the reveal that Cole is the demon (because of his weird time travel heritage) I guess this means to stop Olivia and fix time they'll have to completely erase him from existence?

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It looks like what happened is that after the events of the airport Cole and Jones went back to sometime before 2018.

2017, there's a title card right at the beginning of the scene.

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Anyway, so with the reveal that Cole is the demon (because of his weird time travel heritage) I guess this means to stop Olivia and fix time they'll have to completely erase him from existence?

Just imagine: the weapon that the primaries built was probably going to splinter Cole into a million pieces and erase him from the timeline all at once.

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2017, there's a title card right at the beginning of the scene.

Right, but Hannah was talking about how she knew that she would be Cole's mom. Or at least it seemed like it. But then Cole shouldn't have been surprised that she was his mother or that she stayed in the present from '09 to '18.

Time travel is melting my brain.

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Just imagine: the weapon that the primaries built was probably going to splinter Cole into a million pieces and erase him from the timeline all at once.


Right, but Hannah was talking about how she knew that she would be Cole's mom. Or at least it seemed like it. But then Cole shouldn't have been surprised that she was his mother or that she stayed in the present from '09 to '18.

Time travel is melting my brain.

I'm not sure what you're confused about but they go back in time to 2018 where Hannah saves Cole and pretty much reveals that she's his mother. So they go back to 2017 to let her know that they know and then reveal that she dies the next year at the airport.

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I'm not sure what you're confused about but they go back in time to 2018 where Hannah saves Cole and pretty much reveals that she's his mother. So they go back to 2017 to let her know that they know and then reveal that she dies the next year at the airport.

That makes sense

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qbert
Oct 23, 2003

It's both thrilling and terrifying.

This season's been great. This show is one of my favorite sci-fi series ever, no matter how the last 2 eps play out.

So sad more people never gave this show a chance.

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Jan 21, 2015


I have seen a lot of nazis get gunned down on television and in movies over my lifetime. that was some loving top-shelf, doing it right nazi killing.

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Anyone looking for a time travel audiobook. I highly recommend the Extracted books by R.R. Haywood. I'm on the second at the moment, It's a good story.

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Jan 21, 2015


seriously though... having the mentally ill comic relief belting out a p!nk tune, with orchestral backing, to the assembled leadership of the third reich finishing off with the best bad good guy ever murdering hitler and a double doctorate dominatrix machine-gunning a platoon of waffen ss... but it's not campy. it's absurd and just enough obscene, don't think there are any other shows that could carry that tone and have it totally fit.

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seriously though... having the mentally ill comic relief belting out a p!nk tune, with orchestral backing, to the assembled leadership of the third reich finishing off with the best bad good guy ever murdering hitler and a double doctorate dominatrix machine-gunning a platoon of waffen ss... but it's not campy. it's absurd and just enough obscene, don't think there are any other shows that could carry that tone and have it totally fit.

It was absolutely campy (Hitler headboppin'?) but that's not a bad thing. I kinda adored it.

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It was absolutely campy (Hitler headboppin'?) but that's not a bad thing. I kinda adored it.

yea... cheesey might have been a better word. always thought 'campy' meant insincere retard poo poo like benny hill or hee-haw.

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This season is a tangle of causality loops. Also the Hannah scenes made me sad.

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And when I look back and put all the pieces of this show together, it all works somehow. Everything checks out, sci-fi time travel-wise, and I can only imagine the vast scale of canonical diagrams the writers have to make with straws and yarn in their conference room when doing their jobs. It boggles the mind.

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Jan 4, 2013


I suspect there are a handful of plotholes here and there -- I'm not sure the show has done enough to support the implication that Deacon was the love of future Jennifer's life, for instance -- but it's remarkably coherent overall. It's impressive.

They've really been very lucky too. Quite a lot of this season has relied on them being able to grab back certain key actors in order to close their characters off -- Peter Outerbridge, most notably, who's been in maybe four minutes of the show until now -- which must have been difficult. I think the only significant actor they haven't had back yet is Madeline Stowe, and her character wasn't really that important in the first place. Oh, and Noah Bean I guess.

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That scene was really sad.

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Kind of funny how even now, at the end of the show, they are not redoing the Ramse hand make up and he'll just wear a glove.

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Sep 11, 2001



The last time we hear "Initiate splinter sequence."

In s1, I thought that the corpse that they found in the ice was one of the blue dudes who got splintered in half and sent back in time. I guess it was Olivia instead.

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I like the dark and bittersweet interpretation that Cassie didn't push the button and the rest of the happy scenes are in the red forest.

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I suspect there are a handful of plotholes here and there -- I'm not sure the show has done enough to support the implication that Deacon was the love of future Jennifer's life, for instance -- but it's remarkably coherent overall. It's impressive.

They've really been very lucky too. Quite a lot of this season has relied on them being able to grab back certain key actors in order to close their characters off -- Peter Outerbridge, most notably, who's been in maybe four minutes of the show until now -- which must have been difficult. I think the only significant actor they haven't had back yet is Madeline Stowe, and her character wasn't really that important in the first place. Oh, and Noah Bean I guess.

Whatever the showrunners work on next, if they say they have a plan I'll believe them(or a good group of writers who can tie everything together). Unlike s2 Westworld.



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Apr 14, 2004
Here I was just about to tell you all to shut the hell up, and then you stopped talking so I didn't have to.

With James Callis coming back from some point after the end of the series and Terry Matalas talking about a potential season 5 and/or a Jennifer spin-off I have a feeling they've got a continuation in the works. I think that's fine, if so. This series had a great ending. If the people who want to stay with these characters a bit longer, why the hell not?

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Oct 23, 2003

It's both thrilling and terrifying.

I knew they were too sentimental to go with the sad ending.

drat I'm gonna miss this show.

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