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Angie: loving white people, man.
Haleigh: loving white people.

Ok I like them now

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As long as she does it like that, I'll allow it.

Also it seems like Angela is basically invisible from your updates and the feeds when I watch. Was hoping she would be a competitor after week 1 but maybe she is kinda laying low.

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Also it seems like Angela is basically invisible from your updates and the feeds when I watch. Was hoping she would be a competitor after week 1 but maybe she is kinda laying low.

She's basically the single most boring person on the planet. She's like a walking, breathing example of that old thing where they say pretty people never have to learn to be funny or clever or charming or anything. She's not even necessarily a bad person. A little vain and arrogant but nowhere near her compatriots. She's just... there.

This is not just my opinion, by the by. Most people in the house have said its impossible to have a conversation with her and there's just nothing there. Even her friends really only talk about how hot she is and how hard she works out.

I think there's a real good chance she gets next week's Crap App assuming the criteria really is "no one gives a poo poo about you, good or bad".

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Reddit/Twitter gonna go crazy...

Angie and Bay discussing that the other side has all the Apps and America loves them and Angie doesn't get that. Bay says because to America they're "the ideal" and who America strives to be, a "pitcher perfect white society". Bay's fine if they feel that way because "America gonna see, they'll find out." "They'll never know until we show them, so we gotta show them." Angie says she feels like she doesn't know America because Baltimore feels majority African American and she thought New York was the same but Kaitlyn said its all Jewish. Bay says its true and she lived in "Jew (Kew) Gardens" and all the whites live upstate or in Staten Island or the outers and that's people like Kaitlyn. Bay, "I've lived everyone and I've seen." Bay says Atlanta and DC are the only places black people are welcomed to thrive. "Definitely not Texas" although she carves out Houston and Dallas as exceptions. "There's parts of Texas I don't even feel comfortable driving through." "Missouri known for racism" and the start of the Civil War. Angie is blown away by all of this. Bay says Westboro Baptists come from Missouri and claims they don't let boys go to school together because they might get gay. That one seems iffy. Bay says that if you've always been surrounded by white people you get comfortable around black people and you may not even know its prejudiced. She draws a line between "prejudice" and "racism." Angie says she's accused of "race baiting" online a lot but "who the gently caress am I to tell a black person's point of view is wrong?" Bay's learning Angie on race relations and her experiences. Angie says she's gotta check herself because earlier they were at the table and saying "remember all the people who said they'd leave the country of Trump won but they're still here?" and she said "people said the same thing about Obama." Bay says they were talking about some "spoof" on Obama. BB decides this is enough and bails.

Oh, they're back. Bay just continuing to blow Angie's mind about the black experience. Angie says she appreciates her teaching her because she's not offended by her cluelessness. Bay says she's only offended by ignorance. Angie, "Its 2018". Bay, "But there's places that don't change." Bay talks about how big the world is and how many places she's been and you don't have to stay in a place if its not right for you. She talks about how she was jogging Stone Mountain during a KKK rally and some guy waved and she just waved back. Angie says she's giving her perspective because she's been thrown off by the people in the house. Bay, "They're in their own bubbles." "Bay pops bubbles."

Fessy joins and Bay compliments his tan saying he looks good and "arabic" like he's from Dubai. Fessy says his name means "king." They talk about mixed races. Fessy says he's got Irish, Polish, Czech. He says if he lets his beard grow out it turns red. Bay says her hair turns red too. She says she's got Native American, Italian, Puerto Rican, and stuff too. Angie remains blown away by all this but she's apparently into "that asian dude from White Castle." They all agree they want some Black-Asian kids.

Fessy: What's going on?
Angie: We're just talking about all these white people.
Fessy: I feel like I can relate to your problem. Even though I'm half white. Well you're more white than me.
Angie: I'm all white.
Fessy: We're not white at all. But, the defense. There's usually not this many cultured people on this show. Its me, you, Bayleigh...
Angie: I'm white, Fessy.
Fessy: But I'm saying in like, culture. I was going to include Haleigh in it too. People who aren't just "I'm 100% white as it gets. White as the mayonnaise in the bread." I think the whitest thing is you go to a restaurant and you get your burger and the waiter asks if you want anything and you say "Can I have a side of ranch and a side of mayonnaise?"

BB bails again.

We're back and Woke Chat has moved to Angie talking about her dude and how it puts her in a different place in the house with the showmances and the flirting. Angie didn't expect to be cast as "the older people." Fessy downplays it and says like Steve was Kevin but Angie is Matt, and he dated Raven. Angie says its different for older dudes. Fessy says its up to women because he finds women don't like to date younger guys. Angie basically confirms she doesn't like that her dude is a year older than her because she wants to be the younger one.

Woke Chat back. Angie finds it curious how the entire house was immediately calling Swaggy "aggressive." Fessy says he thinks people were looking for someone to be over the top and be a target. Angie says Winston is her polar opposite and she can't find anything in common even beyond "the fact he's blatantly a Trump supporter and a conservative." "He's 100% MURICA." "But it seems America likes the Bros." Fessy says one of them is going home and they're boring. Angie says how Bay said a lot of America is like them. Fessy says people like different. Angie says Haleigh escaped a 400 person town and Fessy says you'd never know it and she doesn't seem 25. Angie says she's her best friend but they try and hide it, but Fessy knows it. Haleigh's here now and Woke Chat kind of gives way to some sex jokes.

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Hahah. He's legit out there, but so far it's been a good crazy. Wish Angela was going this week so we could keep both Swaggy and Winston's crazy in there. Oh well.

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Watched the ep and it's kind of crazy. Kaitlyn seems self aware that she is playing the role of the person doing a big move in week 2 and getting voted out in week 4, and loving it.

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She KNOWS what she's doing. That its dirty and she's backstabbing all her friends and lying her rear end off. She's talked about how she's ruining friendships. And how her family warned her not to make a big move early and screw her game. And that America might hate her or think she's an idiot. Or how her family is yelling at her that she's betraying the people who trust her for people who won't be loyal. Hell, she's even speculated that her business is all about trust and "love" and a good image and this might hurt that. She's verbalized every argument you can for why she shouldn't do what she's doing.

Tyler just keeps looking into her eyes and assuring her it will be all ok. I've honestly never seen a player manipulate someone this dirty. Its Maggie convincing Howie to put up James and Sarah. Or the First Five manipulating Rachelle into putting up Ika. Or Dan tricking Danielle into making Shane vulnerable. Or the Brigade manipulating Britney to take out Matt. Its brutal.

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Angie and Fessy talking game now. Angie says Kaitlyn feels different, Fessy agrees. Fessy says she thinks they were talking behind her back for days when it was really just one day when they were trying to figure out how to deal with it (Fessy/Haleigh) without rocking the boat. But he doesn't know if Swaggy and Bayleigh said more. Angie says she didn't know what to say because that stuff wouldn't fly with her relationship but maybe Kaitlyn and her man have a different deal. Fessy agrees.

Angie: But then she cried to Tyler and... if I say this out loud you can't say anything. I feel they made a Final 2.
Fessy: Maybe, but it won't last.

Fessy doesn't know what Tyler is "whispering" when he's with her. He says his relationship with Kaitlyn is more jokey. Fessy says Tyler's doing a lot in the game "winning vetos, flipping sides". They say the POV will be curious. Angie says he was trying to pump her and Haleigh to say things about Kaitlyn and then Kaitlyn said "whatever you tell Tyler he tells me." Fessy calls Tyler a "snitch." Angie says there wasn't even anything to snitch. Angie says Tyler doesn't like people getting between him and Kaitlyn. Angie thinks he's also tight with "them" (The Bros, I think).

Sam tells Tyler that everyones trying to work her for game talk and figure out where she is but she's just playing dumb and changing the subject. She feels good that she's playing the game on her terms. Tyler encourages her.

All the pool cues are apparently busted.

Vegas even performs for the camera by eating. Jenn would be proud.


Kaycee wonders what the house dynamics will be when Swaggy leaves. Vegas and she think they can pull Bayleigh when she's vulnerable. "Its what we did with her [Kaitlyn]." Vegas acts like she pulled Kaitlyn and was clever by getting close to her then by intuition. That's nonsense. Angela joins.

Vegas: Don't you love that you're friends with the two hottest girls in the house?
Kaycee: Yeah, I'm so lucky.

Now they're just gossiping. Angela's happy they're going to get to watch "someone unravel" tomorrow. Kaycee immediately tries to steer this away by saying they shouldn't complain but should channel that stuff. That's how these three's dynamic works. Angela and Vegas get mean girl and Kaycee tries to check them. BB protects them by leaving this.

Kaitlyn's talking about her spiritual state. And she's having an allergic reaction to pineapple.

Fessy does a backflip into the pool and gets in trouble.


Winston's complaining about the community mouthwash. And he stubbed his toe. And he doesn't like smelling slop because it reminds him of when he was eating it. I understand why Winston is single.

Tyler stirring up trouble telling Kaitlyn that Rockstar is pissed she's on slop. Kaitlyn doesn't understand people who don't make the best of a situation. In actuality Rockstar's just been on edge ever since she found out Kaitlyn's plans and she's been walking on eggshells and dancing around it all day.

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Angela: Your nails are staying on so well.
Vegas: Yeah, they are.

Vegas laments to Kaycee, Tyler, and Angela that Steve came close to winning HOH. Tyler says Angela and Vegas would probably have been on the block. Angela mocks that "because we walk around like we own the place, right?" They wonder if Steve will Battle Back and try to figure out how many would play. Kaycee recalls the BB16 Battle Back with Jacosta and Nicole. Vegas is confused by this since Nicole won. Kaycee and Tyler say she played two seasons but for some reason Vegas is bothered by this. Now they're joking about doing Amazing Race. Vegas thinks the Bros would be picked, and JC with anyone. Angela says "that would be hilarious." Its the first thing I've heard her say in 5 minutes. Vegas talks a lot about the Gamecocks and Steve Spurrier. They're making all their plans about how they're going to go on all the trips everyone talks about before they start backstabbing each other. Vegas says it feels like they all have a 1 in 6 chance to win now. Everyone agrees.

Sam asks the Bros what she needs to do so "she's not a suspect all the time." Winston lies his rear end off and says they've never doubted her and she's the sweetest person ever. Winston hates Sam. Sam says no one talks game with her, so should she just say "lets talk game?" Sam says obviously the cool kids kept her so she appreciates it and this is her team. Sam says she's going to keep caring for everyone in the house and being herself but if there's something beyond that they'll have to pull her aside and tell her. Winston says "a lot of people think that people forget who voted for who." Again, Winston's been talking poo poo about Sam forgetting for days. Sam says she's going to keep her dignity intact and be nice to people and keep person and game separate. Winston thinks that's hard but Sam says it isn't. Winston says Sam is playing a "perfect game." Winston says she might have a tough time if she wins HOH next week and Sam says "you'll have to tell me what to do." God I hope she's playing dumb. Winston says he thinks Scottie has the App. Sam says Scottie talked to her when she was a robot for hours. She says Fessy too and the Bros lie and say they love Fessy. Brett says he's seen a shift in Scottie since Steve (ie when they backstabbed Steve and lied to Scottie after making a deal right before eviction). Sam says Scottie is very loyal to Steve. Winston LIES HIS rear end OFF and says he liked Steve but he knew Sam would just fit in better with their group. Remember, Tyler only outed Sam's power the night before eviction because Winston wouldn't stop demanding they vote Sam out. They're bashing Steve now. Brett thinks Swaggy has the app. Sam agrees. Sam says "you guys are close to Rachel, right?" and they LIE THIER ASSES OFF and say no. She says Rachel said that the Crap App is dumb so the Power App may be dumb. This gives Winston room to spiral with speculative powers. Brett says its good they think he has one. Winston says "half of them" think Brett has one and "its hilarious." They don't. Winston's freaking out and Sam says he has the votes and if worst comes to worst she can make Angie love Winston (LOL). Sam says Angie said she couldn't connect with Rockstar. Winston starts complaining that Rockstar lied to him by saying she's never seen the show. That's it? Brett, "She also talks poo poo about us all the time." Sam thinks its defensive.

Oh God, Winston is counting votes now. Its exhausting.

Kaitlyn's bashing Cody. Calling him cold. Vegas is surprised he made the show. Tyler, "That's why he made the show." Tyler and Angela liked Cody (during the POV). Kaitlyn says Cody didn't like her because during the press junket she said she didn't connect with the energies of Cody and Paulie. Kaitlyn says Jess didn't want to hug her. That's actually a good read based on Jess' twitter. Vegas thinks they work together because Cody messed up so bad that he just does what she says. Kaitlyn, "I'm obsessed with the sanctity of love and I think everyone has a match but I just think he was an rear end in a top hat." Tyler asks for BB Crushes. Kaitlyn likes Zach. Vegas likes Cody Califiore. Kaitlyn thinks he's overrated. Kaitlyn met Corey once, and says he was weird. Kaycee met Matt. Apparently JC met Jozea. Kaitlyn met Marissa. Who's Marissa? Corey was rolling with a "Vanderpumps Rules D list celebrity" crew. Vegas was an understudy for someone on Vanderpumps. I actually don't even know what that show is but I've heard of it. Kaitlyn says Corey "made it too known he was there."

Tyler: Is that what we are after this? D List celebrities?
Vegas: Absolutely.
Tyler: We're not celebrities!
Vegas: We might be C. Its all about how you spin it.

Winston: Evidently I'm an intense rear end in a top hat.
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I'm back because Haleigh and Angie are finally getting a chance to talks.

Angie: Kind of... horrible. Just awful.
Haleigh: And for us to know before it happens is even worse. But like, telling them would not help anything except hurt our games.

Angie recaps her woke chat with Bay and brings up how Kaitlyn says she's from an all white neighborhood and how Kaitlyn calls Swaggy "aggressive" and how Bay mentioned how people don't know if they're prejudiced. She's dancing around the fact that she thinks Kaitlyn is prejudiced against Swaggy and Bayleigh. Angie wanted a group of people who were "different." Haleigh, "But she's a normal." Angie brings up her "friend mances." Angie is angry that Kaitlyn made a deal on their behalfs with their "axis of evil." (Good news is she was lying, Angie.) Haleigh knows they won't keep that deal (they don't ahve it, they never made it). Haleigh says they don't have the votes to keep Swaggy so should they vote with the house? Angie says they'll have to talk with Fessy. Angie says he's going to be pissed and she's upset she has to lie to him.

Angie: He's a good dude. Swaggy's a good dude too. He's just... I mean he's no more aggressive than the Bros. With their belittling of women. Swaggy doesn't do that.

For some reason BB leaves this very relevant game conversation for 4 feeds of people cooking. But they're back. Haleigh has bitten her nails so much she's bleeding. Angie says Tyler has to go because he's dangerous. Angie laments that Kaitlyn's ruined everything. Angie wants "to narc". Angie realizes that Kaitlyn attacking Winston in nominations was part of the plan to cover. Haleigh doesn't know how to "talk her down from the ledge." Angie's scared if she says something Kaitlyn might put her up. They both agree she's officially flipped to the other side. Haleigh decides to go talk to her.

Sam is recapping her talk with the Bros to Tyler, saying she was trying to reassure them she's on the team and confirms that she was playing dumb. Sam says only he, Kaycee, and Kaitlyn know about her app so apparently he never told her he told the rest. She says Winston was fishing for it but she doesn't know what the long term move is but says she's listening to Tyler. Sam tells Tyler about the other App options. Sam explains the 4 week automatic twist to her power so they have to figure out how they want to manage around that. Sam doesn't know if they actually come back or if its a Battle Back or even if they come back as a robot (that's a cool idea, Sam). Tyler basically says they should see how next week goes. Sam asks if there's an idea who has this week's power and Tyler says no.

Haleigh asks Kaitlyn if she's thought out this whole "betray all her allies" thing and the scenarios. Haleigh's worried where this leaves her. Kaitlyn says this about her "getting justice". Haleigh asks if she still thinks Winston is a threat. Kaitlyn, "Uhh, sure. I guess. Down the road. But not now. Not at all." Goodbye, Haleigh's fingertips. Haleigh going on about how Swaggy did all of this by talking so much trash and how great Tyler is for telling her. Haleigh says Swaggy doesn't say that stuff around her or Rockstar. She asks if Kaitlyn's asked Fessy if he says that stuff. Kaitlyn says Fessy told Swaggy to lay low and let it blow over with Kaitlyn. Kaitlyn feels bad because she's going to call out Swaggy for ignoring her but Fessy told him to. Kaitlyn says that Tyler told her Winston's never been against her. Haleigh says they all thought Winston was gunning for her (he was) but Kaitlyn says Tyler said Swaggy made it up. Kaitlyn doesn't care because she believes she's resetting the game. She's justifying her move saying she has to get Swaggy out because he'll eventually come for her. Kaitlyn wants a 6 person alliance with her, Rockstar, Fessy, Tyler, and Brett. Haleigh says she likes it. "Brett's a threat to my game, but I don't care. Because I like him a lot." Kaitlyn says Bayleigh's gonna blow up (ya think?). Haleigh says she's still worried about her game. Kaitlyn says Brett is a better person than Swaggy "any day". "Tyler said..." and "I have to tell him to remind me." Kaitlyn again lies and says she made a deal to protect Haleigh and Rockstar. And none of those people would put her up anyway. "You'll loving win next week so it doesn't matter."

Kaitlyn: Who would you put up?
Haleigh: I don't loving know now. Because it was going to be Winston and Angela, or Winston and Rachel.
Kaitlyn: It still can be!

Kaitlyn again going on about how she's taking out Swaggy because he was going to take all of them out. She says Haleigh should go start cutting deals with the other side. Brett shows up and interrupts and Haleigh grabs the headphones to avoid being drafted into an alliance. Brett takes his shirt off and crawls between them. I vomit a little. The feeds leave.

Sam's rambling about some nutty theory about how the memory wall pictures align for partners, counterparts, and enemies. Sam thinks Winston is her "counterpart", an equal competitor. Sam can't remember who her Partner and Enemy are. Tyler gets the convo back to the power and asks if she asked for more details of how her power works. So we leave as she talks about production.

Brett's massaging Kaitlyn and low key bitching about Winston's crazy. Brett says he's "a fine wine" that comes on strong and grows on you. I don't think that's what wine does. He's talking about how often he's wanted to tell people to gently caress off but it goes against what he prides himself on. Brett's horrible. I can't listen to him. I hate him. I've always hated him. Before I knew him, I hated Brett by every other name I knew him as. I'm sorry for my bias.

Scottie's broken up the Tyler/Sam game talk.

drat it, Haleigh's talking game. She says she's worried about who's watching her back when Swaggy goes and her alliance falls apart. Kaitlyn says she's "setting the tone" that you can betray your alliances. Ok. Brett encourages her to go after the person she knows is targeting her. Now he's talking about the Swayleigh showmance for some reason. Brett says its vital to blindside Swaggy. I'd like to mock that but I guess the Cloud proves his point. Damnit. Haleigh says she should prepared for Bayleigh's reaction. Kaitlyn says she owes her a conversation but she's not going to have it and she's just going to hide in HOH. Brett, "That's why you have it." They worry about Swaggy having a power. Brett says Scottie has it because he's been "overly cheer" for a guy on the block. Kaitlyn says she told him he was a pawn so he's always known he's safe. Kaitlyn hopes the POV Ceremony won't be tomorrow (it will). Haleigh laments about how she has to keep lying to Swayleigh. Kaitlyn, "Imagine how I loving feel." Well, you're the one doing it so its kinda different. Kaitlyn says she's "strong enough" to never hold any of this against Haleigh or hurt her game. Again about restarting the game. Haleigh's now playing into the "Swaggy is the source of evil" stuff. Brett claims he's heard lots of rumors and lies about him that trace back to Swaggy. Kaitlyn says they've never been targeting Brett. "It wouldn't be the first time I had a couple of ladies fighting over me."

...

Haleigh says she doesn't think Winston, Angela, and Vegas like her. Brett lies and says Winston likes her but thinks she doesn't like him (Winston hates Haleigh). Brett, "He's also convinced that every girl in the house hates him." Kaitlyn says her biggest fear is Brett will pick The Four over them. Brett lies and says he's solidified no game with them. Brett claims Rachel makes him nervous because she's emotional and LIES HIS rear end OFF saying she has a good relationship with Swaggy. Haleigh overtly laughs at that. Brett, "Angela keeps to herself a lot. She's very reserved." Haleigh says she feels comfortable with Brett and she hopes he feels comfortable with her. Brett says none of them ever talked to him. Haleigh says she tried to talk game with Brett before the first eviction and he "shut her rear end down." Kaitlyn agrees. Brett sorta admits to lying? Then he lies some more and says he was nervous or some nonsense. He's a bad liar.

Brett's talking about the infamous incident pre-feeds where Swaggy allegedly assembled half the house upstairs and divided the house. We never saw it, it wasn't on the show, and Haleigh and Kaitlyn say they don't remember it. Its apocryphal on Brett's side of the house for why they're the good guys and were ostracized and Swaggy is the source of all wrong. Brett says he's weirded out by how close Sam and Scottie are when Scottie told Sam he was voting her out. Honest and loyalty to his friend. How could Sam be ok with that over lies and backstabbing? Oh, JC is here. Clock until we're talking about sex. 11:10:05.

Kaitlyn says that she thinks "a lot of people" watching felt that Kaitlyn was the "right person" to win HOH. This is Hall of Fame HOHitis.

Tyler's in HOH now and points out that JC called the big satellite dish in Have Nots and left the small one for Fessy and somehow they let that stand.

11:14:29, we're talking about masturbating in the HOH shower. The girls have to explain to Brett that the pee hole is not for fun. JC likes playing with his pee hole. Sex Gremlin.

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Swaggy's a superfan. Him and Scottie even know OTT. Swaggy correctly identifies that Paul's strategy in the house last season was to make himself the third wheel in every showmance/pairing. Scottie says that Paul plays "scared" and "safe" but if he owned up to it in his goodbye messages he would have won. Sam compares her play to Cody as "loose and fast." Scott thinks Cody got "boned over" with all the Week 1 noms. Swaggy says "kinda." Scottie says Cody played emotionally. Swaggy thinks everyone talked too much and it would get to Paul last season, Scottie says the problem was no one talked enough and it ONLY got back to Paul. Swaggy agrees with Scottie is that Paul's mistake was lying in his goodbye messages. The only part of Josh's game they liked was that he'd always rat Paul out in his goodbye messages (that WAS good). Now they're explaining to Sam why Dan won 9-0 over Memphis. "So Memphis was super bad?" Scottie says Memphis just didn't convince them he had a plan and Dan did. Sam, "People appreciate that?" Scottie, "Sometimes they're bitter." Swaggy says juries didn't get bitter until 13 because Dick won in 8. Scottie objects because it was two Donatos in the end. They explain to Sam how Evel Dick works. Sam vows that she could tame Dick and invites Dick At Nite to lunch and to be friends.



I now sadly want this F3 that can't happen.

Now they're explaining how America's Player saved Dick. Scottie thinks Eric was one of the best players to never win. Swaggy didn't think he was much. I agree. Sam is enthralled by all this nuance and thinks she's not doing a good job in comparison. They say Victoria made it to the end and never did anything. Swaggy explains BB16 as a season where there were so many "alpha dudes" (Scottie, "dudes who thought they were alpha dudes") so she just skated by. Scottie says Caleb thought he was an alpha but Cody would "check him." Swaggy adamantly disagrees and says he'd walk all over Cody but Caleb would check him. "Cody vs Caleb" is heated. Scottie says Caleb got played all season "and Cody got his girl." Swaggy suddenly realizes that Scottie is talking about BB19 Cody and Swaggy's talking about BB16 Cody. Swaggy agrees with Scottie now. BB19 Cody would make Caleb his bitch, and everyone would own BB16 Cody.

Sam: Are you guys going to braid each other's hair any second? This is so cute.

Sam is blown away by all this. She says she figured that people come in with all this strategy and plan and then it all blows up. Scottie and Swaggy say she's right, that's usually how it works. So Sam says she decided to come up with no plan so she didn't have any "skeleton" of a plan to be baggage and just be herself and adaptable. Swaggy says its a good strategy. I agree.

Swaggy: Just don't be like Paul.

Scottie says the finalists rarely have the same gamestyle. Swaggy says sometimes, like 16 and 8 and 12. Scottie doesn't think the Brigade had the same style.

Swaggy: Not the same style, but group.
Scottie: Yeah, I would say the Brigade is different from the Hitmen.
Sam: What's the Hitmen? Is that Derrick?
Scottie: That's Derrick.
Swaggy: And Cody, yeah.
Scottie: Not Alpha Cody.
Sam: The Cody we just met?
Swaggy: Nuh uh, that's 19.
Scottie: The Cody we met is the good Cody.
Swaggy: The good Cody?
Scottie: Yeah, I prefer that Cody.
Swaggy: I prefered... Yeah, I mean you're right.
Sam: These two have been out here like twirling each other's pigtails and like "oh my God, did you like Britney? And did you like Cody? I agree with you! I liked Cody!"

Awww.... I'm gonna miss Swaggy. Whoda thunk it?

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A troublesome twist that everyone could see coming.

Kaitlyn and Tyler were in bed together and Kaitlyn "wrote" on his arm "I would drop everything for you." Tyler tries to back out of it and dismiss it as a game but she insists its not and that's freaking her out. Tyler says he promised to never hurt her game and put her in a compromising position and tells her their secret code is "1012/1022" which means "stand by" and that they have to wait for any of that. Kaitlyn writes something else that I can't catch and Tyler says "1022". Tyler switches talk to game and Kaitlyn says she'd rather lose to him than win and she wouldn't know what to do with herself if he went home. Kaitlyn tells Tyler to write something on her arm because she "needs validation." Tyler says he wants to process it and "write the right thing" and apologizes to her. Feeds leave to try and save Kaitlyn's relationship as Tyler writes "After" on her arm.

The best thing that could probably happen to Tyler's game is for him to end up on the block next week next to Kaitlyn and have Sam's Bonus Life as a safety net on the off chance he can't get the votes. He's playing a dirty game and he's in a bad, ugly trap now.

edit: While this was happening Scotty, Fessy, and Swaggy talked a lot of interesting game but none of it will matter in 12 hours or so. Like they came up with stuff like Brett as a big target because he's a big link between a lot of people and Winston to be left around because he's less of a game threat and has shown his cards. Or Scottie revealing that Kaycee is on the other side and not the middle. But like... everything's gonna flip tomorrow and Swaggy's game is over.

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Ugh, I wish Swaggy would survive this week and play longer, there might be a really good player in there. And like you, I wouldn't have guessed that at the beginning.

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There's an outside chance Sam and Scottie could vote to save Swaggy and Kaitlyn could break the tie to save him, but it would take a hell of a push from the DR to get that to happen. Sam is too much in Tylers pocket at this point, and he seems too much like their golden child to burn this early.

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There's an outside chance Sam and Scottie could vote to save Swaggy and Kaitlyn could break the tie to save him, but it would take a hell of a push from the DR to get that to happen. Sam is too much in Tylers pocket at this point, and he seems too much like their golden child to burn this early.

Scottie is a pretty safe vote for Swaggy. Theyre pretty close, hes firmly on Swaggy's side of the house, and Winston just backstabbed him with Steve and Scotts gunning for the Bros. Id say it's 1) Bayleigh is a guaranteed vote; 2-3) Scott and Fessy are easy votes who might flip if it's hopeless, 4-5) Haleigh and Rockstar would happily vote to keep Swaggy if they had the votes but might bail to save their games.

But Sam is a hard flip. She's been targeting Swaggy all along, Tyler is her closest ally, and she clearly feels she owes Winston and his aide. And even if she could be flipped you need Kaitlyn and she's thrown her entire game upside down for this move, is gonna get snapped at by Swayleigh, and is literally in love with Tyler.

The only outside chance in the world I could see is if Tyler got so exposed that he decided he needed to flip his game against L6 or something. But that's super, super unlikely. Otherwise, I don't know. Kaycee would have to randomly decide to flip her game? It's bad for Swaggy.

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It's a shame that Swaggy decided to push his lame persona so hard that he basically alienated everyone in the house, even after Bay warned him after the first comp. Swaggy seems to have a real good feel for the game, better than most people who have been on the show, but I think he got blinded by the whole TV thing. And he knows enough that he should know better.

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The kicker is he really didn't alienate everyone in the house. Most of them just roll their eyes at "Swaggy" and like Chris. Sam and the Four are the only ones who really and truly seem to buy into the Swaggy persona. And Sam could probably shake that if she kept different company. Like she was clearly having a lot of fun with him and Scottie last night.

Really it is that Tyler identified Swaggy as his biggest threat on Day 1 and has spent 2+ weeks poisoning Kaitlyn against him, keeping the focus on him, and trying to destroy his alliance. This is Tyler's hard fought victory and he deserves the increased scrutiny players are now giving him.

Maybe if Chris had just come in as a normal guy who loved the game and was good at comps he wouldn't have drawn so much attention. But odds are he still would have been a big target for Level 6, he still would have immediately gotten into a showmance making him a bigger target, he still would have won that first comp putting a huge target on himself and making 8 potential enemies off the bat, and Tyler still could have manipulated Kaitlyn against him.

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The kicker is he really didn't alienate everyone in the house. Most of them just roll their eyes at "Swaggy" and like Chris. Sam and the Four are the only ones who really and truly seem to buy into the Swaggy persona. And Sam could probably shake that if she kept different company. Like she was clearly having a lot of fun with him and Scottie last night.

Really it is that Tyler identified Swaggy as his biggest threat on Day 1 and has spent 2+ weeks poisoning Kaitlyn against him, keeping the focus on him, and trying to destroy his alliance. This is Tyler's hard fought victory and he deserves the increased scrutiny players are now giving him.

Maybe if Chris had just come in as a normal guy who loved the game and was good at comps he wouldn't have drawn so much attention. But odds are he still would have been a big target for Level 6, he still would have immediately gotten into a showmance making him a bigger target, he still would have won that first comp putting a huge target on himself and making 8 potential enemies off the bat, and Tyler still could have manipulated Kaitlyn against him.

True. I guess by alienate, I meant kind of I dunno, gave a not so good impression? Between his DRs and how other people talk about him in their DRs, I could see how the Swaggy act would wear thin on a bunch of people. That said, you are right in that most of the stuff he did outside of being Swaggy would get anyone targeted anyway. But I think it is easier to vote someone like Swaggy out, as opposed to likeable, knowledgeable, and dependable Chris.

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Yeah, I think the simpler point is he should have known better and not played so drat hard. That means ditching the over the top tv character (that he stupidly carried over to the feeds) but it also means not winning that first comp, promising everyone safety, and forming early alliances. If he doesn't win that maybe the entire house dynamic shifts. I mean Level 6 basically formed because Winston was looking for safety for him and his crew from Tyler. Who knows how that plays out if Swaggy just saves Angela's group?

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JC apparently stole Scottie's blanket in Have Nots last night and Scottie slept without one.

Rockstar tells Haleigh she hopes Bayleigh wins HOH and "kills all of them." Haleigh wants to watch Kaitlyn scramble and backtrack. Rockstar thinks Kaitlyn is lying about Sam having the power last week to cover up her flipping on the vote. Haleigh guarantees the other side won't be loyal to Kaitlyn and will probably put her up with Fessy. Haleigh says Fessy doesn't know and she said she didn't want to tell him or Rockstar until "30 seconds" before. Rockstar says that's "comforting". "So we can vomit?" Haleigh says its good that no one knows Rockstar knows because she has to walk a line since the other side knows she knows. Rockstar calls them "whack." Haleigh says they don't have any option but to play nice. Rockstar says Tyler is "divergence in the force" and "that hooded guy." Haleigh, "Robin Hood? Little Red Riding Hood?" Haleigh says Kaitlyn thinks she's blowing up the alliances and that she wants them to allign with the Bros. "I would literally evict myself before I aligned with Winston."

Haleigh: She also brought up the point that she wants to show the house that sides aren't solidified and that there could still be moving pieces in this game. She says she's upset because Swaggy started everything so early.
Rockstar: He didn't start everything so early, he was just black.

Brett catches up with Vegas and Kaycee because he's been "all over Kaitlyn." He says Haleigh's on board because she "gets it" and Swaggy is the source of drama and blah blah. Winston joins. They all stress more about the power and if Swaggy has it. Angela's jogging past them not really a part of the conversation but contributing about as much as usual. Vegas wants Tyler to basically threaten Scottie to tell him he has the power to use the POV or something. I don't know, its a poorly thought out scheme just kind of rooted in "if i have power I can demand things". Rachel just doesn't seem happy Scottie is safe. Winston whines more about his game being risked and how pointless it is to cover their alliance. Brett talks about how Kaitlyn's making deals and dances around the fact that Tyler's covering his rear end at the expense of L6. Winston, "Why me, though?" More whining. Kaycee makes the point that if they think Scottie has the power then pulling him off gives him less reason to use it. Brett points out that they don't have any idea what the power is. Rachel suggests the App could be "good or bad." That's dumb.

Kaycee and Rachel complain a bit about how obvious and paranoid Winston is and how they were just all in a really obvious game talk circle in the middle of the backyard with everyone awake and in the kitchen.

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It's crazy how much truth there is in this. Half the time when Swaggy defends himself or his game he's accused (behind his back) of being overly aggressive.

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It's crazy how much truth there is in this. Half the time when Swaggy defends himself or his game he's accused (behind his back) of being overly aggressive.

Eh, I don't know. I think there's some fairness to the double standard that Swaggy is "aggressive" and "scary" but Winston isn't. But I also think its abundantly clear that whatever prejudice or jealousy might be in play here this move happened because Tyler made it happen.

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We missed the drama.

Kaitlyn in HOH bed crying with Haleigh, Brett, JC, and Tyler around her. Brett tells her she's a hero to all girls who stand up for themselves. Kaitlyn saying she told Fessy and Rockstar 30 seconds before and hopes they forgive her. Kaitlyn says it didn't hit Fessy until it happened and he's "so mad." JC says its the heat of the moment. Tyler says its the game. The guys just blah blahing to make her feel better. Brett, "If it makes you feel better you're probably going to trend." Kaitlyn, "It does make me feel better." Kaitlyn asks if Scottie is upset. Haleigh says he's upset but fine. Brett is a dick and says "he's a grown rear end man". Kaitlyn claims Bayleigh "understood." Haleigh says it sucks but its the point of the game. Kaitlyn, "Am I good at it?" Haleigh leaves to check on Rockstar. Kaitlyn asks her to tell Rockstar to talk to her and Haleigh says she probably wishes she hadn't been blindsided.

Fessy and Scottie commiserating with Swaggy. Bayleigh comes in and the guys give the showmance time. Bay says she tried to talk to Kaitlyn and she was crying and saying she rather go home in Week 3 then be bullied and "Fessy hates me". Bay was having none of her playing victim. "What the gently caress?" Bay says Swaggy needs to flip Rachel (lol),Sam, and JC. Bay asks if Swaggy is going to talk to Kaitlyn and he says "not today."

Bay gone and Scottie and Fessy back. Swaggy thinks they have 5 guaranteed votes. I don't know who his 5th is. They all say Tyler clearly was in on it. Fessy says its a dumb move this early and she said Swaggy bullied her. He says now everyone is going to worry about anything nongame related with her.

Kaycee joins the boys in comforting Kaitlyn and telling her how she's the hero of her story. All the same stuff about "game" and "not real life" and "stood up for yourself" nad "so brave." Brett, "We're better for you." Vegas is there now. Tyler and Kaitlyn insisting that Bayleigh understood and Kaitlyn handled it perfectly. Kaycee says people ruin it for themselves.

Haleigh and Bayleigh are now with Swaggy's boys. Its just a mix of expected anger, shock, and defeat. Bay says Kaitlyn said she "is a terrified 12 year old girl" and "Winston has never come after her." Scottie lists times Winston was gunning for her and Bayleigh says she thinks Swaggy made it all up. Fessy thinks he might be able to get JC. Bay says it proves neither Scottie or Swaggy have powers. Scottie says those rumors were just excuses. Scottie tells Swayleigh to spend less time together to play down the showmance. Bay says "gently caress that" and says Winston sucks Brett's dick and its a bromance.

Haleigh with JC now trying to ride the middle. Haleigh wants to know what to do with her vote since there's no way to save Swaggy. JC says she has to vote with the house.

Fessy recounting how Kaitlyn said to him right before "I hope you forgive me for what I'm about to do." Fessy says Kaitlyn threw her under the bus. Bay says he has to tell her she's put him in an awkward position between his two main people in the house. Bay says Tyler has to get out of HOH (good luck).

Bay tells Swaggy that the Four know and Kaitlyn made a deal with the devil.

Fessy talks to Haleigh. Haleigh says Kaitlyn told her the same thing she told him just a little earlier. Fessy asks what to do. Haleigh says right now they just have to try and get votes but she doesn't think they have numbers. Fessy says their best option is JC. Haleigh says JC just told her not to vote for Swaggy and to vote with the house. Fessy says he's not voting against Swaggy. "They'll have to come for me." Fessy asks what about Kaitlyn. Haleigh doesn't know. She says Swaggy DID say he didn't trust her. Fessy, "Week 2?" Haleigh says Fessy has to just keep his cool right now and keep to himself away from Swaggy and Kaitlyn. She says everyone is going to be watching him to see what he does. Fessy doesn't like the idea of turning his back on Swaggy. He says he can't trust anyone. Haleigh says she can trust him. Fessy's in shock over Kaitlyn's betrayal and that she was laughing with him and lying this morning. Says she clearly didn't trust him and is with Tyler. Fessy says he's in a bad position because his two people one just took a shot at the other who is gonna leave. Haleigh says she has to communicate this with kaitlyn. Fessy's kicking himself about telling Swaggy to avoid Kaitlyn. Haleigh says that doesn't matter now and there's a lot of time before Thursday and he just needs to not "pop off." Haleigh says if Swaggy goes home they're all hosed and need to reevaluate the game. Fessy's pissed and wnats HOH and to talk poo poo. Haleigh wants him to calm down. "We need to figure it out, we have four days." Fessy asks what Kaitlyn's plan is and Haleigh says she's on the other side. Fessy says that's stupid since she's in a worse position there than she though she was with them. Can't argue with that.

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Bay joins Fessy and Haleigh and says JC is saying Bay has the power. Haleigh says they don't have JC. Fessy says JC talks too much. Fessy is pissed at JC and haleigh says he can't act lik this in the game and they need him. "Go outside, run, lift something heavy." She tells him not to get involved in any of the drama that happens.

JC and Tyler are patting themselves on the back. Tyler seems a little more stressed than usual.

Fessy outside lifting something heavy as Haleigh suggested.

Bay with Kaitlyn now. Kaitlyn complaining that Bay wasn't telling her about the drama last week. Kaitlyn rehashing it. Kaitlyn says Swaggy was saying "really hosed up poo poo". Bay's skeptical. Kaitlyn says "JC heard him" and JC is neutral. lol. Kaitlyn says Swaggy avoided him all week and was saying he runs the group. Kaitlyn says she'd look pathetic to let that go. Kaitlyn struggled with betraying her friends. "But are they?" Bay says that was all blown out of proportion. Kaitlyn says it was "the language" Swaggy used. Bay says Swaggy is the whole thing she has in the house. She's crying now. Bay says Kaitlyn has so many people in the house. Kaitlyn says she doesn't anymore because she made an active decision to cut her people. Kaitlyn says Bay has grace. Bay says she understands how Kaitlyn feels because she's always telling Swaggy to turn it down. Bay doesn't know where to go. Kaitlyn, "Us." Bay, "Who is us?" Kay repeating her house reset delusion. Rambling now. Says Swaggy "triggered" things from her past. Kay defends Winston and how he's never been against her. Kaitlyn telling Bay to go make new friends and alliances. Bay says Angela and the Cool Kids shunned her. Kaitlyn's just continuing her insanity that there's no more alliances. Bay points out she wasn't even in FOOTY. Kaitlyn lies and claims she never took it serious. Bay says she understands Kay outside the house. They hug. Emotion. They love each other.

This was a dud. Kaitlyn being the victim of her own backstabbing is lame. Swaggy's shut down. The Bros are smug. The Leighs are placating (right game move, bad feeds). Feeds bad.

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Kaitlyn telling Tyler, Haleigh, and Brett that Bay and Scottie said Winston did talk poo poo against her in Week 1 (true). Brett and Tyler insist that's all lies and Winston would never do something like that. They say Swaggy not freaking out, he's just in campaign mode already and trying to figure out how to stay. Kaitlyn says its a bad day. Brett says Bay is manipulating her and telling lies. Haleigh says Scottie told her the same story about Winston talking poo poo. Brett insists it never happened.

Scottie asks Tyler what to do now. Scottie says he swore he'd stick with both Tyler and Swaggy but he thinks Tyler will want to vote out Swaggy so he's stuck between. Tyler repeats the "Swaggy disrespected Kaitlyn" thing. Tyler says Swaggy's going home so they gotta survive. Scottie says he trusts Tyler (I'm pretty sure this is a lie). Tyler keeps burying Swaggy saying he has deals with everyone. Apparently they called themselves "The Core." Tyler bullshiting that he did this for Scottie somehow. I think Tyler is starting to overestimate his powers. He says he knows people will blame him for this move but it was "brought" to him. Scottie asks what to do if they win HOH next week. Tyler says his concern is Bay, Rockstar, or Fes winning. Scottie asks if the Bros will come for him and Tyler says no. Scottie asks how much the other side knows about "The Core", Tyler says nothing, Scottie says Swaggy said Tyler told Kaitlyn anything. I didn't even know about the Core. Tyler encourages Scottie to go make a deal with the Bros. Everyone's aligning with the Bros now. I might quit the season.

Someone asked Winston the story of him being a dick to Swaggy after Steve's eviction. Winston's version has Swaggy saying something to him. Winston, "It was a little much by me, but whatever."

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If the HoH goes with the numbers then this could be a boring couple of weeks. I imagine Fessy would be the next target, or Bay?

Yeah, Fessy's days seem numbered. I think Bayleigh will fold back to the Cool Girls. Fessy's probably dead man walking unless he, Haleigh, and Angie win HOH. And probably Bay and Scottie.

It sucks because i like Fessy. I'm very pessimistic on this season, especially after today's dud.

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Fessy is arguably taking this worse than Swayleigh. They at least have each other. Swaggy's focused on figuring out a way to stay. Bayleigh's been diplomatic and instead of melting down like we hoped she's making sure that she has a game after Swaggy. She's gonna flip to the other side no question. Haleigh's also playing diplomatic and even though she's made it clear she finds the other side detestable she's opening those doors for the sake of her game and placating Kaitlyn's persecution complex. But Fessy?

Fessy had three allies in this game - Swaggy, Kaitlyn, and Haleigh. He also had established enemies in The Bros.
Swaggy's game is over and Fessy feels partially responsible for it because he advised him to lay low this week and give Kaitlyn space. Kaitlyn is the one who did it and she spent the entire week blatantly lying to Fessy while working with the Bros. In fact Fessy has made the connection that if he had won POV she would have told him to use it and still put up Swaggy and just blindsided him completely. And even Haleigh knew about it yesterday and didn't tell him, is now making nice with the Bros and Kaitlyn, and is telling him she might have to vote out Swaggy. Fessy legitimately doesn't think he has a single ally left and his game is cooked.

And I like Fessy. He's a stand up dude who says there's no way he'll vote out Swaggy. But he's gonna go out pre-jury.

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This whole thing is going to be a mess because I just spent hours listening to Kaitlyn cry, lie, gloat, and whine about how nothing is her fault but she deserves all the credit and she did it all for everyone else because she's justifed to be selfish because her friends when she was in grade school sucked.

Rockstar talks to Kaitlyn. Kaitlyn says she did this for her younger self who let her friends talk behind her back and like Swaggy did. Rockstar doesn't blame her because she says Tyler was whispering in her ear but Kaitlyn insists this was her, not Tyler. She believes that. Rockstar says that Tyler tried to get Angie to say poo poo about Kaitlyn so he could tell her. Rockstar just basically laid out the truth about Tyler and Kaitlyn denied it. Rockstar made it clear that Tyler is her target next week and Kaitlyn promised not to tell Tyler. Angie also revealed that Winston owns a Confederate flag that he wanted to bring into the house and he's pissed they wouldn't let him because JC has a rainbow flag.

Swaggy finally talks to Kaitlyn (and Tyler). He basically tries to clear the air about what he DID say about her and what he DIDN'T say. To that end its interesting that Tyler is there because he's the one who was feeding the lies but he stayed silent. Kaitlyn told him that growing up she had friends who talked behind her back so she swore she'd never do it again and generally played righteous about her actions. Swaggy's point is that much of what she heard isn't true but Kaitlyn doesn't really hear it and Tyler doesn't say a word. Swaggy says he knows this isn't personal and says he's cool with them outside the house. Kaitlyn goes to tears and Tyler finally speaks up saying Swaggy's people screwed him (not Kaitlyn or Tyler) by advising him not to talk to her. Kaitlyn advises her to never not talk to him (uhh... when?). Swaggy swears on his dad's grave (at Kaitlyn's urging to give his word) that if he stayed he wouldn't gun for Kaitlyn and Tyler. He talks about how the big thing killing him is that he just met Bayleigh and its killing him to be away from his "girlfriend" all summer. Swaggy really pulls on the heartstrings talking about his dad dying and being raised by a single parent. Its all the right angle with Kaitlyn. He says that he doesn't blame them because they reacted to things they were fed, and he'd do the same. He says his plan is still the cool kids. Tyler tells Swaggy that he's heard that Bayleigh doesn't trust him and Swaggy plays dumb and encourages him to go talk to her. Tyler tries to imply that Rockstar and Haleigh are the true masterminds because they knew Kaitlyn thought Swaggy was talking behind her back but they advised him not to talk to her. Kaitlyn says she's going to give Swaggy $5K if he goes out (the Jury pay) because this was all a miscommunication. Swaggy doesn't care as long as they vote to keep him. "Actions speak louder than words." Kaitlyn says she doesn't think Fessy will forgive her if he gets evicted but Swaggy says he's upset and he says if Kaitlyn and Tyler vote dto keep Swaggy it would all be back to the way it was.

Orwell the owl was ripped and production took him for repair. But when he returned Haleigh discovered it wasn't Orwell! BB pulled the new gerbil trick and Haleigh is not having it! This one is a girl, Orwella. Or "Welly".

Swaggy leaves and KAITLYN BOUGHT IT! She tells Tyler "he can't go" and he's right that they're doing the cool kids' dirty work. It takes Tyler MAYBE 2 minutes to flip her back. Tyler says he can't go back because Fessy and Rockstar hate him and Haleigh has already flipped so she's flaky (ignoring that Haleigh "flipped" because Kaitlyn flipped and told her to flip). Tyler says he loves Swaggy but its their fault and they have to look out for themselves. Kaitlyn, "Thank God you're here." Then Tyler just does his whispering in Kaitlyn's ear thing as she falls further in love. Kaitlyn says baby talk and Tyler keeps gaslighting his BB girlfriend.

Swaggy tells Rockstar, Haleigh, and Fessy what happened and that her main concern is them forgiving her. Haleigh seems genuinely bothered that Kaitlyn thinks she could come for her. "I thought we were good." Swaggy says Tyler told him Rockstar was coming for her. Rockstar says that means Kaitlyn broke her promise and told Tyler. Duh. Swaggy wants them to deal with all that poo poo after they keep him. Angie wants to talk to Kaitlyn with Haleigh so she can't lie to them. Rockstar says Kaitlyn swore she wouldn't tell Tyler. Haleigh says they have to consider Swaggy is lying.

Fessy/Kaitlyn time. Kaitlyn asks how much Fessy doesn't trust her but Fessy says he's not mad at her for the taking the shot, but that he was blindsided by his best friend putting his other best friend on the block. Kaitlyn says she "wanted" him to know and "hinted" and basically tries to blame him. Kaitlyn completely avoids the fact that she lied to Fessy and keeps justifying her move against Swaggy. Kaitlyn cries and says how hard it was to lie to him. Kaitlyn, "What did you want me to do?" Fessy, "Tell me." Fessy says she made him vulnerable and he's a sitting duck now. Kaleigh says she made a deal with The Bros to protect him and admits she's been lying to Haleigh and Rockstar about including them. Kaitlyn says she'd understand if he put her on the block and she understands if he never trusts her again. Fessy says this feels like the worst thing she could have done to him in the game. Kaitlyn gets worked up that Swaggy said he "controls" the alliance and "no one controls me." Kaitlyn again with the "sides are gone" nonsense and how she cut a deal with Winston on Fessy's behalf and now he can work with the Bros with Swaggy gone. Fessy asks why he lied to Rockstar and Haleigh that she cut deals for them but Kaitlyn dismisses it as something that won't matter. Fessy asks how he knows she's not saying all the same stuff to Haleigh since she knew before him. Kaitlyn misses the point and complains that Haleigh promised not to tell him and he tries to clean it up for Haleigh by saying she didn't REALLY tell him. Fessy keeps pointing out that Tyler and Kaitlyn are the swing votes and decide who goes home and Kaitlyn's getting pissy. Kaitlyn says she just made "the biggest move in Big Brother history" and she's getting an app next week. Fessy asks if Tyler would put him up, Kaitlyn says she'd never do that to her. She lies and says Tyler likes him (Tyler is actively gunning for him and she knows it). Fessy asks how he trusts them with her and Tyler going behind her back. Kaitlyn gets upset and victimy again. Fessy says its crazy that she was lying to him as late as this morning and he never doubted it. Kaitlyn's repeating Tyler's nonsense "Haleigh and Angie set this up". Kaitlyn insisting the "no sides" nonsens and that she's not with Winston or "the other side." Fessy says she's doing their dirty work. Fessy thinks he's the target next week (he's probably right). Kaitlyn claims JC and Kaycee are bigger targets.

Swaggy tells Bay about the HOH convo.

Tyler spilling the Swaggy convo to Rachel and Angela. I'm not really listening. Its just them bashing Swaggy and pretending they're playing the game like usual.

Angle and Scottie suss out that Kaitlyn flipped the vote last week and Tyler was behind it and now they were behind this again this week. Scottie, "Its so early." Scottie's freaked out that the other side knew.

Kaitlyn's confesses to Fessy that she was the flipped vote. Angie interrupts and confronts Kaitlyn about her breaking her trust and telling Tyler that she was targeting him. Kaitlyn denies that any of it happened (it did). Kaitlyn lies some more and says Rockstar isn't anywhere on Tyler's radar.

Kaitlyn gets back to confessing that she was the flipped vote. She tells him Sam has the power and that its some kind of Diamond POV nonsense. She "did it for us." Fessy doesn't react great to another betrayal and series of lies. Kaitlyn says she deserves an Academy Award for her performance and like acts out the entire ordeal again with lots of detail about how amazing and perfect she is complete with all the lies she told Fessy. Fessy, "What is going on? All this poo poo you didn't tell me!" Kaitlyn tells Fessy to imagine what she's been going through (for her own actions). Fessy figures out that Sam's power means that the Cool Kids are all safe next week but Kaitlyn says she won't use it on them. Fessy's pacing around the room and clearly just doesn't know how to process any of this. Kaitlyn promises not to tell any of this to Tyler. Now Kaitlyn confesses that she told Haleigh the day before and the Bros knew. There's another lie that knocks Fessy for a loop. Kaitlyn says she doesn't trust Haleigh because she backed her up on that? The gently caress? Fessy (I guess feeling inadequate that he hasn't lied to her) confesses that he has an app (Fessy Fitness) that is free and has made no money). As Kaitlyn rants some more she accidently confesses that Tyler as trying to flip her to the other side BEFORE she found out Sam had a power. I'm not sure Fessy caught that. Kaitlyn lies (or is an idiot?) that the other side doesn't know she was the flipped vote. Kaitlyn admits/boasts/apologizes that if Swaggy has an app and comes off the block she's backstabbing Bayleigh next. Fessy's going to need therapy from this conversation.

Kaitlyn: I know I just told you a lot of information and its very overwhelming.

Oh, she's got more. She admits she told Brett about her vote and the other side knows. She totally said they didn't like 10 minutes ago.

Fessy: I'm so stressed out. Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god.

Fessy: So what am I going to tell Swaggy?
Kaitlyn: That I cried a lot and I need time and I'm thinking about it.
Fessy: So you have to like act like you're considering it.
Kaitlyn: Who knows? Maybe I'll change my mind.

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I'm exhausted, I can't imagine how Fessy feels.

Oh hey, while Fessy is in the bathroom Kaitlyn told Rachel that Fessy heard she's gunning for him. That took like 30 seconds.

Don't trust Kaitlyn.

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One random thing I remembered. Fessy claimed to Kaitlyn that he likes Brett and wouldn't put him up since he worked out with him yesterday. Last night he was telling Swaggy and Scottie that they should target Brett first because he's a better player than Winston and has links to Kaitlyn and Haleigh. So either Fessy was playing Kaitlyn or he just got so much brain damage from that talk she managed to have him pull a 180 on Dollar Store Jesse.

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Jul 19, 2006
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I hate Swaggy even more because he likes both Cody’s who suck.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Tyler cut the Bros next week if he or Sam have the power (or Kathlynn if she gets more clingy)

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I was under the impression from last night's conversation that Swaggy dislikes both Codys and Caleb. I'm almost certain he claled BB19 Cody a terrible player and rear end in a top hat. And he seemed to think Cody C was kind of a joke.

He just figured BB19 Cody > Caleb > BB16 Cody but I think he thought they all sucked.

Scottie did seem to like BB19 Cody for some reason, though, and repeatedly called him a "true alpha." Its possible he was being diplomatic/rear end kissing since he had just met him that day.

Scottie also liked Paul but Swaggy thought he sucked. So that makes Swaggy good.

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Kaitlyn: What if America thinks I'm a backstabber?
Tyler: They don't think you're a backstabber.
Kaitlyn: But I did.

Kaitlyn tries to broker peace between Tyler and Fessy saying Fessy thinks Tyler doesn't trust him. Tyler says "well that means he doesn't trust me so its a problem" as a clear excuse for when he goes against him.

Kaitlyn asks who Tyler would target if he won HOH. He says Rockstar. Kaitlyn asks if he could just backdoor her because she lied and promised he wouldn't nominate her.

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MAJOR UPDATE!

I JUST WITNESSED RACHEL AND ANGELA TALK GAME!!!!!

Rachel said they need to look out for Kaitlyn because she's "good at playing the victim" and she's worried that Tyler is too close to her. Angela said that she can tell Tyler really likes her by the little things. They both agreed they had to keep their eyes on that for later.

Rachel also said that she wants Scottie gone because the Bros are trying to pull him in and while Tyler claims he can convince Scottie to go after the other side Rachel doesn't really believe it and figures if the Bros are safe than they'll be the targets.

Then they discussed how if HOH is an endurance its an easy win. And that they should think about staging a fake fight later in the seasons to put "further" distance between them.

Then they got bored and distracted by something and it was over.

But for a few minutes i saw Rachel and Angela play Big Brother.

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Apr 17, 2001

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Oh my God Kaitlyn is annoying.

Swaggy is actually a really good player and could have done some damage. His character gimmick hurt a bit, but I think it was more just bad luck that Tyler got into the position he did. Tyler is good too, but I can't imagine him making it too far with the game he's playing, too involved in everything.

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Scottie also liked Paul but Swaggy thought he sucked. So that makes Swaggy good.
Swaggy thinks Paul is one of the best players ever and should have won twice.
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Apr 17, 2001

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Paul good, Swaggy good.

What else is going on I'm deprived of feeds updates and I can't handle Reddit for this.

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Imagine liking Jess and Cody outside of the trainwreck factor.

Swaggy is correct, Paul good. His mistake was not owning it.

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