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Fleming was apparently quite heavily into sado-masochism, specifically the 'sado' part. Which makes what he puts Bond through during the series interesting if Bond really is an author avatar. Suppressed switch tendencies, maybe?

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At least Fleming didn't have Bond and Blofeld face off over a game of Soggy Biscuit.

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I think there was one guy who directed the credit sequences for decades? It was just a part of the films as much as Desmond Llewelyn or “shaken, not stirred.”

I can see how someone who had only seen the new ones would have some culture shock watching the old ones. There was a lot about the Craig era films that made people initially go “well I liked it, but it seemed embarrassed to be a Bond film.” Now I think they’ve just turned out to be a different kind of Bond film. Which was necessary.

There had been shifts before (my wife’s grandmother can’t stand Moore and feels he ruined the franchise with dumb jokes) but not as much as these fundamentally shifted the entire style.
Maurice Binder did most of the titles (barring From Russia and Goldfinger) up until Licence To Kill, after which Daniel Kleinman took over in Binder's style, but massively updated and (IMO) more imaginative. He did all the rest apart from Quantum, which was shot by MK12, a specialist visual design company.

The different 'feel' of the Bond movies over the years is in large part because as much as everyone thinks of the series as a trailblazer, in fact it's almost always been reacting to other things going on around it. Dr No was probably the first "spy-fi" cream the rabbit porn movie as the world entered the space age, but there had already been things like The Avengers and Danger Man - star Patrick McGoohan turned down the Bond role because he disapproved of the promiscuity - on TV, so from that point on the series fell into an arms race of increasing lunacy as it tried to top its perceived rivals (the Flint series, The Man From UNCLE, etc), which in turn were also ratcheting up the insanity. At a certain point it couldn't go any further and had to look in new directions, so we ended up with the Moore era and Blaxploitation Bond, Kung Fu Bond, Space Bond and so on, before Lethal Vice Bond ended Dalton's run. We then got a reinvention of the original Cold War Bond for Goldeneye, which was great, but it didn't take long before things escalated out of control again and we ended up with XXXtreme! Bond finishing Brosnan's run. After that history repeated itself: another reinvention, done well, with Casino Royale, but by the fourth Craig movie things had got very silly again.

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Bond passing himself off as American should be fun. Though I admit I prefer "It's like following a cue ball!" from the movie.

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Oh anonib teen no rules god that dialogue.
Never, never, 8th street latina sex never loving phonetically transcribe dialect. Just don't.
I did it in one of my novels (openly for laughs) with a British character trying to do a Deep South accent, and my editor asked me to cut three lines of dialogue down to two because she thought it was too much even for a joke.

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This also shows how incredibly different Moore's Bond is from the book much of the time. He always remains impeccably charming, ready with the perfect quip or gag in response to every single occurrence. He's practically flawless, virtually impossible to intimidate (and he'll still reply with sarcasm if he is), and clearly the smartest and most skilled man in the room.
Moore's Bond is my favourite Bond, because of his sheer unflappability, humour and terrible dad quips. Moore himself was of course already famous as Simon Templar in The Saint, which blended light comedy with action-adventure, and he essentially reprised the role under a different name. He himself admitted that as an actor he had a limited range, but within that range he was extremely charismatic and successful.

But yes, Moore's smooth and suave English gentleman is so unlike Fleming's damaged and sneering blunt instrument (he's more like The Avengers' John Steed, played by Patrick MacNee, who appeared with Moore in AVTAK) that the code number is about all they have in common.

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Interesting to see that Fleming breaks one of the rules of fiction; he switches POVs mid-scene so that we get inside the heads of both Bond and Solitaire. (By 'rules' I mean 'generally accepted practices that critics get pissy about if you don't follow them'.)

So if anyone calls you on doing the same thing, just say "If it's good enough for Ian Fleming..."

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Could somebody really go from being a nobody to a knighthood in five years in 1950 Britain? Class stratification wouldn't keep Drax out of M's gentleman's club?
Of the many stupid things about Die Another Day, the idea that Gustav Graves could appear from nowhere and be accepted at the highest levels of British society in just 18 months without anyone ever noticing that he literally didn't exist before then stood out. Five years for Drax, in an era before social media and the ability to check someone's history almost instantly, isn't beyond plausibility considering that he's a war hero and rising industrialist from an unremarkable background (so someone that a Labour government, which lasted from 1945 to '51, might want to reward with a gong) rather than of the monied classes - although he'd be forever marked as a ghastly parvenu by those same people. The other members at Blades certainly seem to regard him that way.

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