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Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010


I know it's been said, but this chapter just confirms how much less suave and self composed book James Bond is than movie Bond. Even beyond his misreading of Vesper and her abilities due to his sexism, his plan for recovering from his bacarrat loss is that he doesn't have a plan. His mind goes straight to self pity and self doubt. It's just luck and Leiter that give him a second chance.

And then, even after he disarms the assassin, his main concern is that he looked a fool in front of Leiter. He makes sure that Leiter gets the cane gun not to keep it safe or out of the hands of Le Chiffre's men, but so that Leiter can understand the reason for Bond's "embarrassing public display".

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Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010


Here's insecure Bond again, feeling puny and impotent, realizing he underestimated his enemies.

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Apr 10, 2010


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I hope you really like words like "negro" in this book because you're gonna see a knock a pussy out lot of it.

While there's plenty of casual racism (and a bunch of not so casual racism) in the book, this is more of a case of the evolution of language, and )maybe some casual racism baked into the language) than a deliberate attempt at a slur, though. "Negro" didn't really fall out of fashion and "black" into fashion until the late 60s/early 70s. Before then, "negro" was seen as the polite term, and and "black", while not necessarily a slur, was seen as impolite and vaguely insulting. I mention the casual racism in the language, because part of the reason "black" was seen as insulting was because it drew direct attention to skin color, and in a society where skin color was directly linked to social status, the term was considered insulting. This sort of colorism existed within the black community as well. Even when colleges and fraternities and social clubs were segregated, light skin blacks found it easier to get into colleges, fraternities and sororities, social clubs and so on.

It wasn't really until the rise of the Black Power movement and the "black is beautiful" slogan, that the term black became commonly used by African-Americans and as the preferred term to refer to African-Americans.

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Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010


There's also a kind of grim humor in "Well, Negros are advancing in all the fields we used to think only whites could do...science, medicine, literature. About time they throw up a criminal mastermind as well.

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Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010


In case anyone is curious, the name of the chapter and Leiter's reference in the restaurant, comes from the incredibly popular 1926 novel of that name by Carl Van Vechten, about the relationship between two newcomers to Harlem, a librarian who loves living in Harlem for its culture and a young writer, who, knowing that segregation and prejudice against blacks will keep him from leading the life his talents mean he should, loses hope, and sinks into a life of recklessness and debauchery that ends with him being blamed for a murder he didn't commit.

The book was popular among whites, and served for a while to turn Harlem into a tourist atteaction (which is ironic, given the rant by the writer that gave the book it's name)

quote:

friend of the family Heaven! ThatÂ’s what Harlem is. We sit in our places in the gallery of this New York theatre and watch the white world sitting down below in the good seats in the orchestra. Occasionally they turn their faces up towards us, their hard, cruel faces, to laugh or sneer, but they never beckon.

It was, however, controversial in the black comminity, with some, most notably Langston Hughes, who was Van Vechten's friend and possibly his lover, saying that it helped make people aware of Harlem's cultural achievements and the danger of racial prejudice, and others, most notably WEB Dubois, saying it trafficked in harmful stereotypes and was an exploitative attempt by a white writer to appropriate black suffering.

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Apr 10, 2010


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Oh mom son porn pic god that dialogue.
Never, never, do kids watch porn never loving phonetically transcribe dialect. Just don't.

It's usually called "eye dialect", and it was really popular in the 19th and early 20th century. You don't see it so much anymore. Although, there was a 2008 Baltimore Sun article about Bill Clinton stumping for Hillary in the primaries that included the quote "That's the kind of thing those people that aren't for us say. You know, they think we're dumber'n we are. I know, cuz I grew up in a place like this, and I figured out that people are just as smart here as anywhere else. But they ain't figured it out yet."

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Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010


If you want another example of writing in dialect/non standard English for comedic effect, before he issued the Emancipation Proclamation, Abraham Lincoln read his cabinet a short story by Artemus Ward. Ward was the pen name of Charles Browne, and Ward, the character, was a backwoods Yankee, full of common sense. Here's the story, spelling original to the 1862 story.

quote:

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In the Faul of 1856, I showed my show in Utiky, a trooly grate sitty in the State of New York.

The people gave me a cordyal recepshun. The press was loud in her prases.

1 day as I was giving a descripshun of my Beests and Snaiks in my usual flowry stile what was my skorn & disgust to see a big burly feller walk up to the cage containin my wax figgers of the Lord's Last Supper, and cease Judas Isscarot by the feet and drag him him out on the ground. He then commenced fur to pound him as hard as he cood.

"What under the son are you abowt?", cried I.

Sez he, "What did you bring this pussylanermus cuss her fur?" & he hit the wax figger another tremenjus blow on the hed.

Sez I, "You egrejus rear end, that air's a wax figger-a representashun of the false 'Postle."

Sez he, "That's all very well fur you to say, but I tell you, old man, that Judas Isscarot can't show himself in Utiky with impunerty by a darn site!" at which observashun he kaved in Judassis hed. This young man belonged to 1 of the finest families in Utiky. I sood him and the Joory brawt in a verdick of Arson in the 3d Degree

Well, Lincoln thought it was funny, at least.

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Apr 10, 2010


I like Mr. Big as a character.

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Apr 10, 2010


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Fleming's depiction of Florida is quite different from how you'd recognize it today. This is so early that even Disneyx men comic sex land hasn't opened yet in California and we're still 19 years away from Walt Disney World suddenly infusing a ton of cash into the local economy and boosting real estate through the roof. My home metro area of Orlando is mostly prominent for being the largest city and having a lot of Air Force bases. By the time my mom moved into the area in 1979, the Longwood/Lake Mary area I live in was nothing but one-lane dirt roads surrounded by trees. Now it's a network of suburbs, strip malls, hipster food joints that I unironically go to, and classic car shows.

For another look at pre-Disney Orlando, check out Pat Frank's Alas, Babylon.

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Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010


I'll say again, I really like Mr. Big as a villian.

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Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010


The other thing is, for all the kind of pervasive racism throughout this book, he's not stereotypical, or comedic. A lot of times, even today, when you have a black villian, the sterile is that he's a thug, just dumb muscle, who the (white)protagonist ends up outsmarting.

Even though you see some of that with Mr. Big's hemchmen, you don't with him. He is brutal, but he's also smart, he's charismatic, and he's dangerous, and a large part of his danger comes from his intelligence, charisma, and ability to manipulate others.

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Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010


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Apr 10, 2010


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... So there's not a whole lot of difference between this "Japanese murder drug" and the benzedrine Bond casually took (by full asian sex movies mixing it with his champagne no less) last night?

A methyl group. Methamphetamine is a lot more dangerous and potent than benzedrine, though

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Apr 10, 2010


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They're close enough that the hypocrisy is amusing today.

Eh, I guess. I'd still be a lot more concerned about somebody taking meth than benzos or Ritalin, though.

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Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010


Ironical is both older and more British than ironic, bit they mean the same thing.

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Apr 10, 2010


Why are all their heads shaved? Did I miss that?

Ah. To keep their hair from being tangled in the machinery.

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Apr 10, 2010


So here is my guess, plot wise, keeping in mind I've never read nor seen this.

watch celebrity sex tape Drax isn't actually British. He's a German Nazi Werewolf who assumed the identity of a dead British soldier. The burn scars are probably because he was in a city, maybe Hamburg, that was firebombed during the war. He survived, but his wife/girlfriend/sibling/parent/child was killed. He and his scientists, who are all fanatical Nazis themselves, plan to use the rocket to hit London or someplace else important to get revenge on Britain for winning the war/firebombing Hamburg/killing Drax's lived one.. They all wear mustaches because they have some Nazi tattoo or brand or something on their upper lip.

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Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010


I have to confess that I like book James Bond better than movie James Bond. Sure, book James is misogynistic, racist, misanthropic, and possibly a borderline drunk, but he's also just some regular schmuck who likes nice cars, doesn't much like his job or his life, probably is developing a stress ulcer, and succeeds not because he's some suave, sophisticated superspy, but because he pays attention, is lucky, and is good at killing people.

He's....a very British hero.

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Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010


Wait. His real name is Hugo von der Drache, and the dead British soldier was Hugo Drax?

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