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I am really mad at Death of the Inhumans, y'all.

This is increasingly becoming my default reaction with most of Marvel's work.

Cosmic Ghost Rider, though.

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Kill your most lovable and readable inhumans in the first issue good loving job.

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I thought for a misery fest it was pretty effective. I can't even imagine resentful X-fans being able to extract any schadenfreude from the thing.
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So now that Marvel Studios is going to be able to use the mutants they're cleaning house and doing "penance" by killing the poo poo out of the inhumans, huh?

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So now that Marvel Studios is going to be able to use the mutants they're cleaning house and doing "penance" by killing the poo poo out of the inhumans, huh?

The difference being no one likes Inhumans so no one's going to be mad.

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I've never really been able to get into Donny Cates's "Look at what I'm doing isn't it hilarious and audacious " books so far, and while Death of the Inhumans takes the sort of "Lockjaw... in Iron Man's armor... in dinosaur times... fighting.... ZOMBIES!" part out of his writing, it's actually worse.

I kind of assume it's all going to get magically reversed, but it's not just Lockjaw. I guess the idea is that the Kree want the Inhumans to serve them, so the first thing they do to get the Inhumans to join them is to murder 11,038 (the number is specified) of them and carve JOIN OR DIE into their chests and put them in orbit around the moon.

Then they murder the four other tribes of Inhumans from Hickman's run.

Then they set a bomb to kill Black Bolt's crew (but only kill Triton but Medusa is also mortally wounded).

Then they invade New Arctilan and appear to be killing everyone in sight, including Naja and Flagman, then they kill Maximus and Lockjaw.

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The difference being no one likes Inhumans so no one's going to be mad.
Everyone getting mad about comics that sell 5,000 copies ending are the perfect people to appeal to populism, totally.

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The difference being no one likes Inhumans so no one's going to be mad.

I mean I really like the Inhumans. Loved Jenkins' and Jae Lee's 12 issue maxi-series. And I'm probably in the minority that loved them when they took over the Kree in War of Kings.

I just hate how they were shoved down all our throats as replacement mutants and now that X-Men is back in, they're just being swept under the rug in the absolute worst way.

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Yeah, I liked the Inhumans too. I mean I'm not so dumb that I didn't recognize they were being pushed as the new mutants (not to be confused with the New Mutants ), but their books were good and a lot of the new inhumans were genuinely good characters. This just reads like "Hey guys we heard a lot of people complain about the Inhuman push so how about we fix it by nude jennifer love hewitt killing everyone. "

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It is known that I loathe the Inhumans and Marvel killing the handful of Inhumans I enjoy is pleasing. The hate is pure once more.

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You're not wrong, it also reminds me of a certain strain of Shooterism that was going on in the 1980s, where Marvel took the whole "the world outside your window, with superheroes!" as an excuse to really make things more buttoned-down and "adult" in a way that meant Permanently Writing Out vampires and culling alien races and limiting the use of any sort of secret society/cultures except in very controlled settings. Which actually brings up another quote from my accidental John Byrne Interview Deep Dive from last night:

John Byrne in 1982 posted:

There are half a dozen of us at Marvel right now who have sat down and said boy, the last fifteen years (makes raspberry sound with his tongue), we really messed up. And we're trying to correct all the dumb stuff from the past 15, sometimes 20 years.
This was back when he and Claremont and Miller and Stern were big writers at Marvel and generally getting along with each other and Shooter, and the most amazing thing about this is

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b) Byrne' point for where Marvel went wrong is somewhere between 1962 and 1967

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Well, let's just hope Reader is not anywhere near the other Inhumans so when he gets wind of what happened he can bring them all back!

Also don't kill Reader and Forey, Marvel.

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I think marvel committing genocide on two different ethnicities on the same day so casually is actually a good distillation of how they view marginalzed groups at the company

What's the second one? I don't think I picked up a lot of Marvel stuff this week, but I'm presuming that the first is the Inhumans?

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The Eternals I at least assume are part of some sort of revival/revamp plan, partially because I have more faith in Aaron to be a good/constructive writer than I do with Cates, but also because they straight up mentioned the Uni-Mind which is a Get Out of Jail Free sort of thing to bring back Eternals.

This isn't even the first time the Avengers have had to deal with a bunch of Eternals corpses.



The Death of the Inhumans seems more wonton and mean spirited.

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That's pretty bad armor, but I assume it's related to whatever that weird secret society she and Miles got drafted into was.

And Cho just looks like Beast Boy now.

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You're not wrong, it also reminds me of a certain strain of Shooterism that was going on in the 1980s, where Marvel took the whole "the world outside your window, with superheroes!" as an excuse to really make things more buttoned-down and "adult" in a way that meant Permanently Writing Out vampires and culling alien races and limiting the use of any sort of secret society/cultures except in very controlled settings. Which actually brings up another quote from my accidental John Byrne Interview Deep Dive from last night:
This was back when he and Claremont and Miller and Stern were big writers at Marvel and generally getting along with each other and Shooter, and the most amazing thing about this is

a) FRAMER'S INTENT John Byrne talking about fixing things the Old Masters did
b) Byrne' point for where Marvel went wrong is somewhere between 1962 and 1967

I never really thought about it before but man, Shooter really did have a “make it real” stance towards the end.

First he went on the “death” kick, where he wanted to kill off a bunch of characters that weren’t doing anything anymore - that’s how Captain Marvel got greenlit to die. He also wanted to kill off a ton of other 1970’s “non-founding” side characters like Shang-Chi.

Second, he did the whole “world outside your window” thing. In the span of like 2 years, Marvel:

1). Got rid of vampires
2). Got rid of the Dire Wraiths
3). Got rid of the Skrull’s shape-changing powers
4). Got Marvel out of the Cosmic realm.

Shooter did a TON during his tenure, and arguably made almost as many character changes then as the current regime has been doing. Spider-Man’s new costume, intelligent hulk followed by grey hulk, Rhodes as Iron Man, She-Hulk in FF....

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I'm not saying the book won't be good, but what demographic was chomping at the bit for a Shatterstar solo title?

Like, the Domino one, I get. Zazie Beetz was great in the new Deadpool movie, so synergy, but Shatterstar?

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Champions has sounded it’s entire run like the absolutely most eyerolling collection ion of dated comic tropes and twists anyone could have envisioned.

Champions is... not great? And I read for a while, too. It's got the problem a lot of team books have when all their characters have or had ongoings, so you can't really do much with them. Also I don't think Waid really has the ear for writing teenagers any longer.

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how has the zub run of it been so far? something worth reading in general or pretty much just something to wait for when it hits marvel unlimited?

The two issues I read were a step up due to the way better artist, but it's still not really a must read by any means.

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Co-creator of Captain America Joe Simon? Wikipedia says he died back in 2011 at the age of 98. Are you thinking of someone else?

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