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LOL. I used to know a CO who referred to his job this way.

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LOL. I used to know a CO who referred to his job this way.

Being a CO is considered the lowest of all the law enforcement jobs. I had several CO at the academy tell us the only difference between them (inmates) & you is that they got caught. Never forgot that nugget of wisdom.

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Nov 9, 2008

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I can’t speak for prisons but I installed and set up some computers in jails last year. The COs were nice to me and I was treated like I was a minor VIP. They treated inmates like they did not exist.

I was in a guard post working on a machine. The inmate is begging for help on the intercom and the guard is ignoring her busy watching cops. She gave no fucks and shut down the intercom when the inmate was too loud. She really wanted to get back to watching cops.

I only worked in the local jails a week or two but it’s bad because you can’t just leave easily and there are no windows so it’s a real oppressive work environment. I don’t know how people work there for twenty years.

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May 5, 2005

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. I don’t know how people work there for twenty years.

Imagine being one of the people being treated like not-humans and spending a decade or more. Then being shoved or the door with like $100 in your hand, no where to go and (a lot of times) no support system and expected to just hop into housing you can’t find and a job you can’t get.

This isn’t directed toward you personally, but that’s how incarceration is. Anyone that doesn’t know why recidivism is as high as it is needs to be witness to the justice system for 6 months

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I can’t speak for prisons but I installed and set up some computers in jails last year. The COs were nice to me and I was treated like I was a minor VIP. They treated inmates like they did not exist.

I was in a guard post working on a machine. The inmate is begging for help on the intercom and the guard is ignoring her busy watching cops. She gave no fucks and shut down the intercom when the inmate was too loud. She really wanted to get back to watching cops.

I only worked in the local jails a week or two but it’s bad because you can’t just leave easily and there are no windows so it’s a real oppressive work environment. I don’t know how people work there for twenty years.

COs are the Navy SEALs of ignoring things. There was this mentally disabled dude in my pod in county jail who fell down and had a violent seizure so I hit the button and told the guards. They said they were on their way and nobody showed up. Then they got super pissed off that I kept paging them to tell them about it. I finally ended up calling my mom on a payphone to have her call the disabled guy's mom and she did, then that lady called the jail to threaten a lawsuit - and that STILL didn't speed them up. All said must have been between thirty and forty minutes before anyone even looked at the guy.

But really it's the medical staff that's the worst of the worst. They let people die of curable illnesses all the time.

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... I don’t know how people work there for twenty years.

The #1 goal of all CO's is to get as far away from the inmates as soon as possible. Seniority means you can bid on jobs that will do just that. Getting a job in the visiting room is good or on the wall is even nicer, as long as you can qualify consistently on the rifle.

Walking the tiers is what new jacks do & is considered the shitiest of all jobs.

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Aug 27, 2011

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We have a lot of inmates fighting fires in California right now. They get paid like 1 or 2 bucks an hour and get to work outside. I keep hearing how good of a gig it is for someone in prison, because they are pretty choosy about who gets to do this type of work, and I keep hearing anecdotes from bria myles sex tape people who didn't actually do this in prison talking about how the prisoners really like the work and it has a positive impact on them by being able to help their communities. But I never hear of people that actually did this or how they felt about it, which makes me skeptical about how great it must be. Not to mention the fact that they can't even use the experience to become an actual firefighter,since they're a felon.

So it's kind of a paradox- you have to be well behaved and nonviolent enough to qualify as a prison firefighter but it's not good enough on the outside.

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It doesn't seem like much of a stretch to believe that someone who is going to be locked in a series of buildings for potentially decades enjoying the opportunity to work in the woods, even if it is hard work and they aren't paid much.

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We have a lot of inmates fighting fires in California right now. They get paid like 1 or 2 bucks an hour and get to work outside. I keep hearing how good of a gig it is for someone in prison, because they are pretty choosy about who gets to do this type of work, and I keep hearing anecdotes from teen big black cock people who didn't actually do this in prison talking about how the prisoners really like the work and it has a positive impact on them by being able to help their communities. But I never hear of people that actually did this or how they felt about it, which makes me skeptical about how great it must be. Not to mention the fact that they can't even use the experience to become an actual firefighter,since they're a felon.

So it's kind of a paradox- you have to be well behaved and nonviolent enough to qualify as a prison firefighter but it's not good enough on the outside.

I work at a state prison, adjacent to the fire station where the inmate-firemen live in between giant fuckoff forest fires, and they definitely are gung-ho about it, they have to go through a ton of poo poo to be firefighters, and they get trained constantly by actual real firemen.

Unfortunately, I get the impression that they’re given sort of a bill of goods about their future after prison, and part of their enthusiasm stems from actually feeling needed and wanted after years of being treated like poo poo inside institutions.

Personally, I think they should be paid better and have a path toward being firefighters on the outside, but I pretty much believe this about most inmates. Give ‘em some job skills where they at least have a chance to get out and stay out.

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May 5, 2005

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My good friend did 10 years and worked on a farm in Ohio, and he speaks fondly of doing lovely, hard labor dairy farm poo poo . The other poster is correct. Resigning yourself to believe you aren’t going to touch grass for free mobile porn gallery x years, then to be given a chance like that is welcome for many. The guards were more lenient on farm workers, knowing they had worked at earning that position for months or years. Working on the farm also got you special housing , bigger meals and a (pitiful) income.

Which makes Ohio having a ‘fire sale’ and auctioning off all their farm operations even more infuriating. The farms supplied all the milk and dairy for every prison in Ohio, but not only that.. they almost always had a surplus, which meant donated fresh milk for schools and non-profits . But someone higher up decided that farming wasn’t a worthwhile skill to learn, and instead the guys should be learning tyra banks showing pussy sex with my aunt I.T.

Oh yeah, and the powers that be made quick bank, but tax payers got absolutely hosed. Both in how under value the items were sold for, and how we went from paying operating costs for milk, to having a contract to buy $2.6 million yearly


Sorry for that derail. I’m still pretty pissed about the whole thing . The farm was a huge motivator for the guys and the service they provided was great for everyone.

Beside that, the milk was the best I have ever had. It came in single serving, clear plastic pouches and was just fantastic

e; Oh.. and this all literally happened overnight. $8.9 million in upgrades were already started (some even completed) and construction at LCI and MCI had already begun when they decided to scrap the whole thing

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Aug 27, 2011

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They really should change their licensing to make it easier for convicts to transition to being actual firefighters when they get out. But I doubt this will happen because the non felons trying to apply for those jobs will have a fit that they got passed up because some ex con firefighter got the job.

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They really should change their licensing to make it easier for convicts to transition to being actual firefighters when they get out. But I doubt this will happen because the non felons trying to apply for those jobs will have a fit that they got passed up because some ex con firefighter got the job.

People that aren't convicts and applied for the job (firefighter) after being EMTs for years are stuck on waiting lists that are 2-5+ years long; there's zero chance these guys will be firefighters on the outside ever.

At least that's how it is in Illinois, in more populated cities/suburbs, not sure about other states.

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