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So there's going to be a remake of the classic horror film Suspiria 1977.



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The film is directed by Luca Guadagnino(Call Me by Your Name) and written by David Kajganich.

It stars Dakota Johnson, Tilda Swinton, Mia Goth

Music is by : Thom Yorke

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If you don't know it's a remake of the original 1977 film by Dario Argento , being the first part of The Mothers Trilogy a loosely connected trilogy of films about evil witches. It takes place at a school for ballet. It has neon lighting and a killer soundtrack.



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Starring: Really no one you'd recognize really unless your really into Italian film.

Suspiria is really considered by many to be Dario Argento's masterpiece of cinema. Considered by many to be one of the greatest horror movies ever made. A lot of this is because many people see it as a evolution or modern version of the gothic horror genre pushing it into modern times with neon lighting to match.

In recent news for this film though is there is a new 4k restoration of it that has been going on tour recently in theaters around the country.


Here's the restored trailer for the 4k film :

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So this is the thread to talk about Suspiria the 4k restoration and the upcoming remake of the film.

The non restored version of Suspiria can I believe still be found on Amazon Prime and for free on Tubi Tv if you have not seen it.

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I was skeptical about the whole idea of this. But this looks... lovely.

It's still going to bother me that the original musical theme is missing, such a central element of the original.

I'm loving the casting of Tilda Swinton though. That's going to make this picture.

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Joan Bennett and Alida Valli too. amateur beach sex video Suspiria has a surprisingly stacked cast for a low-budget Italian production.

Fun fact: Alida Valli's real name is Baroness Alida Maria Laura Altenburger von Marckenstein-Frauenberg.

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I'm seeing the poo poo out of this on opening day - Suspiria is one of my favourite movies, Tilda Swinton is my favourite actor, and Luca Guadignoingongoingognoingginino made my favourite movie last year.

Is the poster in the OP official? "Based on the Dario Argento's cult classic" is pretty awkward.

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I'm seeing the 4K restoration of Suspiria in the theater on September 23rd. Hyped as hell.

As for the remake I thing it looks great, and from what I've read it's going to totally be my thing. I love how the director didn't attempt to replicate Argento's style but instead gave it his own. I think the film world is big enough for two version of Suspiria to exist, especially when they each take such different approaches.

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I was apprehensive about til the second trailer.

I'm seeing the 4k restoration this fall.

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I'm anticipating liking the remake more than the original. Now they just need to remake Inferno & Phenomena as coherent films.

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Starring: Really no one you'd recognize really unless your really into Italian film.

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I'm seeing the poo poo out of this on opening day - Suspiria is one of my favourite movies, Tilda Swinton is my favourite actor, and Luca Guadignoingongoingognoingginino made my favourite movie last year.

Is the poster in the OP official? "Based on the Dario Argento's cult classic" is pretty awkward.

Think that poster's probably a fan design.

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I'm anticipating liking the remake more than the original. Now they just need to remake Inferno & Phenomena as coherent films.


Jessica Harper was in Phantom of the Paradise, how dare u

Phenomena is perfectly coherent. It's just trying to be like, three films within a single running time.

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Oct 4, 2013

I think we should call the Avengers.



free hairy porn pic Suspiria isn't incoherent either. If you accept the basic premise of witches being real, it's a very straightforward horror story.

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naked girls pussy video Suspiria isn't incoherent either. If you accept the basic premise of witches being real, it's a very straightforward horror story.

Even moreso in the original Italian as I discovered when I saw the remaster in theaters. The English dub isn't anal sex in bathroom bad per se, but it does muddle some bits that end up causing confusion.

Also lol that there are some people who can't accept a fantastic premise in a horror film and then spend far too much effort drawing all sorts of weird conclusions in their reading because of it.

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Neither is Inferno. A woman who lives in an apartment building discovers that it's home to one of the Three Mothers, she adult doll sex toy finds out a bit too much and is killed for it, and her brother travels there to find her because she'd sent him a letter right before her disappearance. That's about it?

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Phenomena is perfectly coherent. It's just trying to be like, three films within a single running time.

True. I'll be honest, it took me like 5 viewings to make sense of Inferno, but apparently that's just me.

e: Inferno was my favorite Argento film even before I could fully wrap my brain around it, so coherence isn't a full-throated criticism here.

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Phenomena is perfectly coherent. It's just trying to be like, three films within a single running time.

Creepers, on the other hand,

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The original is fantastic, the soundtrack is imo the best feature of the film. If there is anything this new one has to live up to beyond anything else its the score and music they'll use.

I'm excited for this new one, it looks like they've gotten the vibe of the original captured well.

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Well, uhm, that's something
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I mean in a visual medium, homage requires similarities not carbon copies - those look lofted wholesale. It's not reminiscent of the work, it copies it, which fits plagiarism more than homage and especially in a legal definition.

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Didn't this happen when The Cell came out, or is Damian Hirst not litigious like that?

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From what I can see in the article it seems they're not suing for plagiarism, but for reproducing the artist's work commercially, though.

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What's the distinction?

Apparently the estate explicitly has in their copyright or whatever that the work can be reproduced for scholarly purposes as an umbrella permission? (ie classrooms, museums, etc)

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Now I'm even more confused, isn't that already part of fair use? Maybe I should stop asking questions and just read this poo poo.

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Saw the 4k restoration two weeks ago, looked really good. Plus it was my first time seeing it so extra bonus.



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Now I'm even more confused, isn't that already part of fair use? Maybe I should stop asking questions and just read this poo poo.

Nah, copyrighted work applies copyright indiscriminately unless they apply exceptions - screening a film is still technically a breach unless there's a specific license, such as education copies etc. Fair use to my knowledge concerns some degree of transformative use, such as critique via narration (video essays, let's plays and the like).

What's been done here is more akin to finding a really good sentence in a book and using it without quotes while saying "hey this is a great source!" - with the double whammy of being used in a commercial product.

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Alexandra Heller-Nicholas, who wrote the Suspiria monograph in the Devil's Advocates series, has some thoughts on the flick here: beautiful naked young men

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Just LOL if you thought an Italian horror movie wasn't going to rip something off.

Then a Hong Kong movie rips them off whole sale by stealing their Goblin soundtrack.


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How's the music? I love Radiohead and I wonder if Jonny Greenwood helped teach Thom how to make a movie score or whatever.

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